Profile of elchino7

Wasn't this why they introduced removing players who were inactive, because someone who played 50 games with the original tiger ace then stopped playing when it was nerfed was going to stay high up... Etc

More like too many smurfs clogging the top ranking on ladder.

I like the format you used here. And yes I can agree with you 100% on it. So what I would like to know if anyone here can confirm #3 (like has anyone seen any forwarded emails/or straight up replies from so n so, as well as if #2 can give an fact or opinion on #4.

More like due to respect, NDA or whatever, that is not something most if any company at all would tell you (you as the general public).

If they do not run with ourah to close in to 10 units fast and walk, they will be cut down while moving and firing with their reduced DPS.

How is ourah not worth it? If ourah is not worth then probably conscripts are not worth it.

This is accounting from what you said before and on the opening post about having to tweak hoorah or other changes to mitigate the conscripts changes.
"I think I get pretty well. What will happen with these changes is that anyone that want to use conscripts will ourah them to range 10, where "point blank" mechanism kicks in and the whole cover mechanism goes out the window. The result? fight from tactical will become a bloody mess of having to counter wave after wave of screaming conscripts."

A unit which takes roughly a couple of seconds or volleys of fire missed, has to be able to recover that damage lost and the opportunity of been able to snap the enemy squad out of model/dps as approaching. This is why i said, that unless you have PPSH, you don't want to use hoorah to get close at every engagement you have.
I haven't seen it on 4 years since release, besides the early 5 muni hoorah spamming to get faster capping and mobility on a game which had a low lethality to booth with, so i don't think it's gonna be an issue nowadays neither (pure mosin nagant).

So to put it clearly: hoorah is useful. It's not useful as to spam it at every single fight as you mention in your comments (or what i can deduce from wave after wave of screaming conscripts).
You are asking for other nerfs to account for the current Conscripts changes when it has barely been tested and people don't seem to find it obnoxious for the moment.

Then you wording was actually pretty poor because this is what you wrote.


and inaccurate since the moving modifier for Mosin is *0.50 Accuracy *1.5 cool-down , resulting to around 42%-47% DPS depending on distance.

If semanthics is all you want to discuss... I would had written half but i guess you would had something else to say. The real point is if you don't have PPSH to greatly overcome the DPS lost on the approach and the muni expenditure it's not worth spamming hoorah.

I was responding to your argument that overkill factor is important and pointed out that exactly the same applies to VGs (with out ST44).

Not because AGAIN, the dynamic of the early game is different when one has access to 2 full automatic weapons which spread damage and one of them is their starter unit.

Casualties become more RNG the sorter the fight so generally when cover is not involved and range are close. In the live version they become RNG because people tend to ourah conscript and fight at close range, something that will do even more at the patch.

I haven't seen people using hoorah and if they did, they are using Cons wrong. But the truth is, who ever uses Cons to begin with.

And now they will more reason to do so since the optimum range for fight will be 10. And that will force Ostheer either in HMG spam or the 3 g43 doctrines.

And now you are overreacting, cause conscripts winning by a margin at close range was how the game played since it's release till WFA were released.

Using ourah make lose 100% DPS because units do not fire actually.

I was referring to the 50% you have while moving at normal speed

Actually it going to attrition that will beat grenadiers since they around x150% more.

Conscript do not have to "win" engagement due to the bleed factor. Delaying Ostheer teching is a "win" on its own for Soviets.

And that's bs. You WANT to win engagements early on as Soviets, specially if you go for Cons spam and/or light vehicle play. You don't want to be playing from behind. The whole myth of you just have to bleed them cause they are more expensive has been debated since 2013 and it has always been: whoever plays better it's cards is gonna win cause the total reinforcement cost at the end is gonna be the same for both if equal playmaking is done.

That is part of the problem with patches, they do not explain what actually goal of each change is and how they aim to achieve it.

I think we both have enough ingame experience to spot incoming problems before they appear. I also think that this issues should raised ASP since Relic seemed to have ignore many many warning about incoming problems. The fact that ver 1.1 has been already released is promising sing, the fact that it they have moved to ver 1.1 even before testing is an indication that there is nothing wrong with finding problems (like the panther) before actually testing the mod.

There's already a replay with Redwing (someone who has plenty of xp with Con spam and offmeta play) and it seems for now nothing was crazy with Cons.
TBH i don't know your experience ingame cause i never seen your nick nor replays coming from you (i only bring this up cause you mention it). Unless something is completely obvious i don't give doomsday opinions. The PV uproar could be seen miles ahead, same with Jackson changes (although the dynamic with the other units is also huge). I don't think it's so with Cons.

I am posted pages and pages of warnings about the redesign of Penals, the USF mortar, the VG ST44, the ability to decrew USF artillery pieces yet we had to go thru months and years of broken things before they could be fixed.

1- Which redesign? The one who put them on the light while Guards were OP in combination with T70 or the one that gave them PTRS. I never liked the PTRS on Penals and would had just given them an AT satchel if AT nade was researched and/or try with the small AT gun first. You are not the first to complain about them.
2- USF mortar was problematic only because Relic released single player campaign mortar instead of the SU mortar version which was tested on the beta. Nowadays most people skip it.
3- I would gladly see those comments PRIOR to the release of the rework OKW, not after. TBH that was a complete mess and hard to do. There was so much shit going around that in comparison, it was the lesser evil at that moment. Unless my memory betrays me, i've always said that Obers arrive a bit too late but they are completely stupid once they vet. The transition between Volks into more AI infantry can't be done unless you spam PF or get JLI/Falls (both of them having issues with AoE and spacing). Still the main issue with OKW on 1v1 was playing against SU with maxim spam.
4- This has been the case since WFA beta.


I would not insist so much if patch where coming every month or 2 but if the game become broken for another 8 months it will probably die.

You know nothing Jon Snow. We had even less people a couple of months after the game release back on 2013. The active playerbase actually grew later on. The sheer amount of "top" players dropped during the years, specially after some time post WFA and the release of UKF but the more casual base was more than content to keep playing even if UKF, and the commander release after (CalliOP, Cancer and LM) made the game really obnoxious.
The game will die if there is no support at all. There hasn't been any incentive for people to come back and try the game again as it was the case on previous years. Either through balance or content patches. Still we are rocking with similar number of players.

Dead games are: Halo Wars, Homeworld, Steel Division, Grey goo, DAW3, Sudden Strike 4...

Unless it's a remasterisation (Wololo), a Total War or CIV like game, i don't think any other RTS has done any good.

Answers in red. I think i don't have anything more to add nor either part will change it's current opinion. I'll just wait for more replays/games to pop up before commenting any further.