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Thread: Axis armor bounce a little to often10 Oct 2019, 02:40 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 23:37 PMporkloin So, as a rule, they are in fact faster. Even in your cherry picked closest comparison of unvetted m4 vs OST p4. I'll admit I was wrong about the IS-2 being overall better than the tiger. I looked at the stats for the tiger ace assuming it would be faster than the normal one to save myself some time. IS-2 is marginally slower, but has significantly better rotation. E: I confused SU-76 for SU-85. Even then comparison holds against the jagdpanzer. Stug is a bit more mobile; however, it's still a stug.... There's no cherry picking. I specifically said: "Mobility is equivalent for similar vehicles". When the values are so low and close to each other, you are not gonna notice the difference. The only outlier in the whole category is the Cromwell at 7.0 (+0.7) / 2.6 (+0.5) which is the only thing it has going for it atm, while the rotation is equal to PIV. That's for sure a way to avoid crushing units with ease, when both of the vehicles with same rotations values can gain access to a heavy speed/acce buff. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Axis armor bounce a little to often9 Oct 2019, 23:18 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 21:56 PMporkloin ... Gonna use coh2db for values which i guess didn't change: 0.1 on speed and 0.1 on acceleration doesn't have a meaningful impact in how a vehicle compares with another (M4 vs PIV), rotation is equal to Cromwell (while this is the fastest of them which is fine cause is lacking in several other departments) and 76 is both slightly faster 0.2/0.2 and rotates better (32 vs 36). Luckily for the PIV, it has a more impactful vet 1 ability which let's it gains more mobility when needed (Cromwell requiring Hammer). If that's not similar, well i guess they don't have similar armor values neither. Su76 is between a Puma and a Stug, role wise (Anti light, soft anti medium). It's funny you mention the Su76 cause everyone knows it has one of the worst mobilities due to pathing. Tiger is faster than IS2. You might have seen TA or KT, both of which are in a different category. KV2 is a low freaking tank as well and might be comparable to KT as it was made to be less and less reliant on artillery mode to be useful. JT hasn't been updated. (3/1.2/16) so it's closer to the Ele (3.3/1.4/16). ISU (4.5/1.4/16). If i may say something: the most important value to look at vehicles is acceleration >= rotation >>> speed. Most of the time, vehicles are not able to use their max speed unless running away through roads or during long straight chases. Rotation is what enables vehicles to maneuver and actually be able to roadkill models. There are things which are equivalents and others which are "premium" or slightly above or below each category. The // separation denotes a slight change in role/weight/cost/Vet requirement/etc. Light: Stuart, Aec, // Valentine, Puma, Su76, Medium TD: M10, Stug // JPIV, Su85, Jackson, FF Medium: T3476, Cromwell, M4A3, PIV, M4C-76mm, // OKW PIV Premium/Advanced Medium: E8, Bulldozer, T3485, Brummbear, Comet // Panther, KV1 // Pershing Heavies: Tiger, IS2, TA, KV2 // Churchill // KT Super heavies: ISU152, Ele, JT Might have miss some vehicle (i didn't count Kv8, Scott, Centaur, Ostwind, etc. on purpose). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?9 Oct 2019, 21:13 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 20:43 PMVipper Yes I have read it plenty of times. Not very recently thou. In this thread. Between the guys we were talking with. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?9 Oct 2019, 20:01 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 19:38 PMVipper I can easily agree with that. And I did not posted that you personally have made a claim that commandos are UP. The problem is that other users pick up lines like that and they repeat them again and again using them as an argument to prove that the unit is in someway lacking. Then myths are created that hold no water at all. For instance for years this myth was repeated that Sherman somehow had a disadvantage because it had HE round and it had to switch to engage tanks. Did someone brought that point up? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M20 over nerf rofl9 Oct 2019, 19:09 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 18:40 PMBartonPL M20 was coming on the field when literally nothing could counter it and thus, USF gained a huge map control by then, even if enemy managed to rush the 222 or luchs alike, the M20 has a lot of choices to survive, one of it is smoke, previosuly it was also a zook which im glad it was removed, not to mention that stuart can come in like 3 or maybe 4 minutes later? so why bitching about this nerf, let's find out how it works first Cause complaining in the forum is free. No one will say anything if it ends up been fine and if they were right, they will just said I told you so". My only concern is how the change was implemented. If this was something which has already been discussed and tested prior to the implementation of the latest big patch, then i guess it's fine. If not, it feels like they are just trying to juggle to find a solution to current USF in ways that might have bigger repercussions than intended. Like the increased cost on officers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?9 Oct 2019, 18:59 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 18:43 PMVipper Read my post again I clearly state the difference: And actually the difference is 22% not 19% but commandos end up having better RA. And as context I have clearly state I am simply point out that the myth about commandos and their veterancy simply does not hold any water. Read again the post i answered to before jumping to show up how much you know about the game. If my interpretation of his post saying that people didn't whine as hard when Commandos were at their peak, then my answer failed to be proper to the context but doesn't make it less true. I didn't say they scale bad (NOW), that is something more complex than just vet. I've specifically said that their vet is the worst. YOUR OPINION is that it's equivalent to Paras/Rangers. I don't think that the case and we can still agree to disagree. It would still put it in the lower end of the spectrum. Someone has to be the worst, that doesn't mean it's imbalanced. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?9 Oct 2019, 18:14 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 17:38 PMHon3ynuts Okay Commandos are tied for the 16th best veterancy instead of the 17th best veterancy out of ~20 infantry squads He will always find something to comment on and will casually not state in numbers the exact thing that might make his comment rebuttal look worse (19% difference in RA). Also, it's not like he can read the context of what was been discussed. Reminder that the whole point of the discussion was why Falls (post buff/pre nerf) were a worst offender than Commandos with their cheese back then. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?9 Oct 2019, 17:17 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 16:15 PMVipper that is no longer accurate, commandos vet bonus have increased allot and combined with base stat make the unit scale well... vet 1 passive healing , Unlocks light smoke grenade Vet 2 +35% speed during ambush for 3.25 second, +30% accuracy, 25% grenade range Vet 3 0.9 received accuracy, Squad drops a big smoke grenade on retreat I know, and it still the worst infantry vet in the game (IB4 engineers). I'll be honest that i forgot the speed buff on ambush, but nevertheless, my statement is still true. If the word "worst" triggers you, i'll consider the vet worst than: Con, Penal, Guard, Shock, Partisan, Gren, PG, Osstruppen, Ass G, Storm, Jaeger, Rifles, RE, LT, Cpt, Ass Eng, Pathfinders, Cavalry, Paras, SP, Volks, Ober, PF, JLI, Falls, IS. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?9 Oct 2019, 16:05 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Oct 2019, 12:48 PMachpawel I must trust You on that - however, I do get the feeling that when axis confronted uberpowerful commandos, it was l2p and adapt issue from many allied players perspective (and to those shocking then gammon bombs!). Now I regularly kill whole squads with commandos; be it demos, gammons or just close range amushes and nobody wants to admit they are v. powerful. When it is the axis it gets changed a tad too quickly and too much, instead of players' adapting. I'm ok with them being more expensive (recent nerf), maybe even more but I'd leave them where they are for some time (maybe see what happens in a tournament?). Commandos main cheese and role was, stay cloaked, throw nuke nade and wipe a squad. Something OH can also do after changes to camouflage and PG. They are only good at that and they pay for it in their cost acquistion and having the worst infantry based vet in the game. This is why they can't be compared IMO cause they have completely different strengths, usage (Commando/Falls) and scaling. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penals Redesign9 Oct 2019, 15:49 PM The time to redesign and waste time on them has long pass. Penals nerf: Respective tech gets a name change. Satchel requires Molotov upgrade. PTRS requires AT nade upgrade. Now you adjust Conscript without fear (make 7man upgrade come free at T3 requiring both AT/Molo upgrade but without the buff and only reinforce cost reduce. Performance upgrades unlocks with T4) and possible Maxim. In: COH2 Gameplay