Most RT vs AT wind up in the match being done and dusted within 5-20 minutes and are not enjoyable to anyone, except those worms that like playing unfair seal clubbing BS.
I agree. Especially 4vs4 is a deeply flawed system and I think Relic will lose casual players and money if they don't fix this unfairness. At the very least fix 4v4.
Also, 4vs4 team unfairness is not just related to skill and ELO rating.
The unfairness is also related to AT synergistic effect of specialized commanders/factions which the current matchmaking does not take into account.
As with a perfectly designed AT setup with factions/commanders I could make the argument that 4vs4 AT has the potential to become P2W (synergistic effect) vs RT with random factions/commanders (no synergy).
A solution to this?
Let the random team choose factions/commanders in two stages before the game start;
1) Individual faction/commanders setup before searching for a match, 2) as the match is fixed RT makes a second setup to counter AT faction/commanders.
If lack of players is a big problem, cut 3vs3 and/or make 4vs4 base game FTP. Alternatively, keep 2vs2/3vs3/4vs4 on the old system while doing 4vs4 experimentation with a new system.
Most PvP fans hate unfairness and want a level playing field. That's why they hate P2W microtransactions.
How CoH3 can make money from players, the lifecycle;
In short, the casual players make money and the hardcore players make the community content/engagement.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I think Sega/Relic executive leadership has falling into the trap of complacency. ESG investments is highly dangerous and corrupt. As a loyal fan that is justice-for-all I strongly advise Sega to reconsider their corporate policy. ESG investments is a house of cards just waiting to collapse.
Not if, but when and how.
Arch Warhammer did a decent job exposing DoW3 failures and unethical gaming journalism.
Briefly talked about ESG investments in Relic/Sega marketing (social credit system for woke corporations) and the future of Relic here;
Quote from Arch Warhammer;
25:15 “it also stinks of ESG score it really does it really stinks of outside investment”
If Sega support woke capitalism/ESG investments it'll be a disaster with long term consequences for both Relic and Sega. And yes, this includes legal consequences as equal justice under the law.
Please be informed that western judicial branch has plenty of laws to restore justice it just needs to be enforced equally. Justice are not only for the rich and powerful.
So choose your allies carefully as your corporate future depends on this.
In future class action lawsuits I fully expect big corporations will face bankruptcy due to unprecedented corruption, fraud and fake money making schemes.
Western billionaires that try to evade justice + taxes are trying to hide their fraudulently wealth in 'charity'/foundations. For proof of this Norman Dodd Special Committee to Investigate Tax-exempt Foundations exposed this decades ago.
With the propaganda machine trying to guilt trip disempowered western males while ignoring Tax-exempt Foundations subversive and criminal activities is very evil and wicked.
Also need to know. As video below highlight there is two ways a publicly traded company can make money.
Joe Rogon Interview Adam Curry. ESG's Are the Reason for Woke Corporate Interests.
EXPLAINED: ESG scores are why EVERY corporation is going WOKE
ESG scores similar to China's social credit system, designed to transform society, think tank director says
source; Home | Heartland Institute
How much ESG money are we talking about?
$41 trillion by the end of this year according to this source;
Amid concerns about climate change and social justice, ESG investing is fast becoming the hottest investment theme globally. According to Bloomberg Intelligence estimates, ESG assets are poised to reach $41 trillion by the end of this year and exceed $53 trillion by 2025.
At best, ESG is another corporate fraud/fake money making scheme. At worst, ESG is evil pro-WEF social engineering that intend to turn the west into a George Orwell animal farm.
*snip*
Almost everything that Tariq Fancy says about environmental, social and corporate governance, or ESG, investing has been said before, in one form or another. The significance of what he writes — most recently in a long essay on Medium — is how he says it and who he is. He was the chief investment officer for sustainable investing at BlackRock, which is the most important institutional face of the claim that ESG investing has an important role to play in helping the environment, promoting the social good, holding the corporate world accountable, and so on.
Fancy thinks the ESG project is intellectually bankrupt and is damaging to the most important causes it purports to support.
IMHO, this wasteful spending and/or propaganda is the nr.1 threat to CoH3s longevity as it's only a matter of time before this house of card collapse. Not if, when and how.
Please be warned that when I say propaganda this is not just me. Speaking for my own country we have current and former university professors calling this out as a dangerous propaganda machine.
Everyone on this planet has spiritual protection at their disposal, the real question is who is protecting who?
As team humanity wins the spiritual war, all remaining black hats lose their spiritual protection.
The reckoning & downfall for evil and wicked western billionaires club:
TLDR version;
If Relic/Sega executive leadership blindly support wasteful spending and/or woke capitalism this will not have a happy ending. As a "woke corporation" and executive leadership that also make your corporation subject to future class action lawsuits as breach of fiduciary duty. Im confident that people losing their pension funds and life savings to this ESG money making scam/stock market crash won't be happy.
Just like DOW3, Relic has abandoned the game. But the coh2 community are a bunch of little simps that keep licking Relics balls no matter how many times they shit on your chest.
As a pro-CoH2 messenger that is staying vigilant, your job is not to save everyone.
There is none as blind as those who refuse to see (willful ignorance).
Relic/Sega leadership presents no evidence for the CoH2 abandonment. Until Relic/Sega present the evidence the abandonment is not based on reason and logic.
CoH2 is not DoW3. If Sega/Relic wanted to they could easily make more money from CoH2 content. CoH3 remains a high risk investment. If Sega leaders had any logical brains they should have used AoE4 for Relic to prove trust. But fuck no, they take another gamble with CoH3.
So yeah, if AoE4 is the best Relic can do, then CoH3 will be a bumpy ride with shitty post launch support..
Relic is now 3x the size of when they made CoH2. Are Sega fools into thinking Relic profit will go up by running a large studio with average leadership (at best)?
As an investor, seeing a critically thinking impaired Sega/Relic leadership throwing money into a black hole is like;
The gaming community has plenty of informed people who has been trying to wake people up to the major threats that is facing the industry. There is zero excuse for not being informed.
From everything I have seen so far, I feel like there is a HUGE disconnect between the actual devs and the marketing + upper managment department.
It's worse than that. I have enough experience to know who's behind this propaganda machine.
For those who are brave enough to face the truth, reverse speech are a good start to separate the wheat from the chaff. Know your enemy and/or who has been compromised.
Just because this is getting more popular/trendy within Relic's echo chamber does not mean it'll be on the right side of history.
What is the greatest teacher?
Experience
In other words. People can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
Learning to discern good from evil propaganda is part of spiritual maturity such as critical thinking + intuition. It's also not the first time in history EVIL rebrand itself by hijacking sacred symbols and turn things upside down to deceive millions of people.
On the positive side, this propaganda machine is mostly a western thing. The rest of the world will be fine while the west is going to hell in a handbasket (subject to change depending on free will choices).
How bad is it going to get? In short, the west will either learn to fight back or you'll be assimilated by EVIL. Like quite literally.
Best case scenario? The global backlash against corporate wokeism/fake activism will be demonized in the same manner as the fall of Nazi Germany. Sounds impossible? That's only because people do not understand the EVIL AGENDA that is behind this propaganda machine.
Welcome to 1984 western clown world, where down is up, up is down.
EDIT: Rosbone has legit concerns. He might not take the most diplomatic approach to getting his points across (lol) but it is in all of our interests that the matchmaking system is better than what COH2 currently offers. Defending it in its current state and accepting the status quo is effectively the same as saying "I don't care if I have to play against people that are hundreds to thousands of ranks better/worse than me" - you do you if you think that creates fun games.
I think Rosbone has legit concerns just misunderstood by narrow-minded fans that don't understand they are prey as passion is very easy to exploit.
With knowledge about the dark side of the gaming industry, it's easy to feel hopeless about the future.
People tend to forget that they are living on a prison planet where tyranny and evil (hyenas that deserve some ass whooping) preying on the "weak"/disempowered are the norms.
Is humanity weak? absolutely not.
disempowered, divided and mislead? Yes, but not weak.
The disempowerment works like The Wizard of Oz: Pay No Attention (stealing your power through trickery and deception)
Uncomfortable truth?
We are far beyond polite diplomacy and holding hands singing kumbaya. A complacent community is just too vulnerable to abuse and exploitation.
For proof of this; go compare Fifa sheep with The Star Wars: Battlefront II loot box drama.
One community behaved like complacent sheep for years, and the other had the backbone to set some boundaries.
Without the Star Wars pushback, the majority of the PC gaming industry would copy the same predatory business practices as Fifa. We all owe our gratitude to Star Wars fans for leading by example.
This loot box drama was one of those pivotal moments in gaming history.
The gaming industry is rotten to its core. The downfall is real.
For some proof of this wickedness. Watch this excellent video from Bellular News that should be need-to-know for both devs and fans.
Bellular News | This Is SERIOUS: The Industry’s Evil Is Out Of Control
Wake up sheeple and learn to set some boundaries.
Are you prey (sheep) or the hunter (learning to be a tiger)?
Are there good guys and/or white hats within the gaming industry? sure.
Unfortunately, the majority are just pawns.
Now to be fair, Sega/Microsoft is not the worst publisher out there, but they are not the good guys either.
Old school Blizzard is a good example of 'good guys' that fell into the trap of complacency. As a result, the company was taken over by two-faced evil leaders.
The current playbook/propaganda machine;
EVIL disguised as VIRTUE.
Start investigating all the disingenuous corporate virtue signaling as "enemy camouflage" and you'll begin to see the hostile takeover as it takes place in real-time.
Sorry, if I sound pessimistic.
But I won't sugar-coat this, either team humanity learns to fight back or you'll be treated as a slave.
For millions of people and soon-to-be spiritual warriors, this evil is not a theory, we know from personal experience this is reality.
This is an all-out spiritual conflict first, and a physical conflict second.
Also, the woke virus is playing many good devs like a fiddle. EVIL disguised as VIRTUE.
As usual, it’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.
In the light of truth how many really want to be a slave to the woke virus?.
Time will tell.
Quote and source;
Babylon Bee CEO Seth Dillon: The problem of “wokeness,” specifically, you mentioned that’s like a “mind virus” and it’s destructive. Why do you think “wokeness” is so destructive?
Musk: I’m interested in your opinions too, but, you know, like, I mean generally, I think we should be aiming for, like, a positive society and, you know, that it should be ok to, you know, be humorous, like, you know, like we should, we should like, like “wokeness” basically wants to make comedy illegal, which is not cool.
Dillon: We’ve experienced a little bit of that.
Musk: I mean, like [Dave] Chappelle, what the (censored)? I mean, trying to shut down Chappelle? Come on man. That’s crazy. So, you know, so do we want a humorless society that is simply rife with condemnation and hate, basically.
Dillon: And no forgiveness, right? Hmm.
Musk: Yeah. At its heart, “wokeness” is divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives mean people a reason, it gives them a shield to be mean and cruel,
May 20, 2022
TopperHarley said:
just saw that Aoe4 currently has 1.6 k viewers on twitch on a Friday evening. While even one of their biggest streamers (beastyq) is streaming..
Imagine the top streamers of Aoe4 moving to Facebook (which happened with Aoe2). Would we have ~200 viewers on a Friday evening for Aoe4?
Its just a fact that this game is on life support by huge tournament money (and it make sense to do so from a Microsoft perspective i guess) but let's not forget that i would be so ded otherwise..
Yep, gotta think about it from Microsoft’s perspective. They want casual aoe fans to believe aoe4 is still a highly hyped game with a lot of potential. They do so by giving it the larger prize pool and the final series. This will convince people who watch the tourney for aoe1 and 2 that they need to buy aoe4 because it’s the “latest and greatest”.
The main income from AoE2 is going to be DLC's / expansions
The main income from AoE4 is new game sales, and then future expansions/DLCs
There just aren't many people purchasing AoE2 compared to AoE4, and you have to sell a lot of DLCs to match 1 new game sale
Common misconception from AoE4 Reddit fanboys, haters are not destroying this game.
Those fans need to redirect the attacks to MS and Relic which is 100% responsible for this failure.
In essence: Thanks for all the effort you've put into CoH2 and its fanbase. I hope you'll stick around for CoH3, but I can obviously understand if at some point you decide that organizing tournaments consumes too much time and you have to or want to focus elsewhere, although I of course hope you and everyone else involved will still be up for tournaments in CoH3.
The silent majority is the "casual" crowd, which makes most of the RTS money, that's just a fact.
If CoH3 can retain this crowd and with good monetization schemes then Relic/Sega has the money for investing in tournaments.
Financially speaking and from a Sega investor point of view? Yes, AoE4 is failing on steam but perhabs less on Xbox Game Pass.
The retail price alone is not enough to make an acceptable return on investment (ROI) from AoE4.
That's why Sega wants higher player retention from Relic games such as DoW/CoH/AoE.
High retention equals more potential profit post-launch from DLC and microtransactions.
CoH2 = average reception (initial launch) but good retention partly due to the game having no real competition except games such as Iron Harvest.
DoW3 = poor reception, low retention
AoE4 = good reception, low retention
High retention leads to more consumer engagement and gaming hype. This create a money-making cycle like this;
Sure, MS has a lot of money. But why invest more money into AoE4 when they will soon control the future of Starcraft? For MS the primary good reason to invest more into AoE4 would be because of Xbox Game Pass.
At the CoH2 launch, Relic had 110 devs and a smaller team working on DoW3
At the CoH3 launch, Relic will be over 300 devs.
For CoH3 to keep such a large studio profitable, seems like mission impossible.
2+2= 4?
Good luck but I think you community guys are too optimistic about Relic's future.
With AoE4 underperforming and losing players, Sega only has bad options left;
1) For Relic to save AoE4 they need to postpone CoH3 development asap.
2) Keep CoH3 development on schedule and they lose more AoE money. Then Sega will be forced to cut wasteful spending at some point in the future.
In short, Relic/Sega leadership made a high-risk gamble expanding this studio to over 300 devs.
So far they have lost that gamble.
By law, Sega leadership has a fiduciary duty to its shareholders, not to Relic's studio leadership wishful thinking about running a profitable studio with 300+ devs.
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