Profile of OZtheWiZARD

Excuse me, what? Are you even reading?



All my wats, man. All of them. Ive never seen so many false implications and such a contrived misreadinf of someones post in my entire time on CoH2.org. All I said, was a max rsnge reduction. It boggles my mind completely that you somehow, in your imagination, actually, in any way or form, was suggesting even remotely in anything I have said, that any of those except the first was my proposal.

These were the things you complained about so I assumed you have problems with all of them.

Range reduction is a stupid idea because as I said it would allows the unit to be rifle naded by Grenadiers OUTSIDE of the unit firing arc. Can't you see any flows in this logic?


When I pay more for a unit, I expect this unit to perform better. Maybe it needs slight dps output reduction, I let Relic balance team decide this, but any other change would render getting this unit pointless. You can have access to Maxim basically straight after game starts now. It's usually my second unit to build because I need and like this crowd control ability early game.
The firing arc of Dshka is the same then that of a Maxim which means whatever works for Maxim will work for Dshka as well. Get a flametrack or use two squads to flank it or just run straight up front and nade it with Greandiers as majority of Germans do with Maxim. Sniper, Mortar, Pioneers with flamers. It doesn't have firing arc as wide as Maxim so spread out your troops and flank it.
There is a difference between AP abilities of MG and Dshka. MG gets armour penetration and damage increase and Dshka gets only armour penetration.


@ MoerserKarL

You're talking about pinned units aren't you? If that's the case then no surprise there due to higher dps.


@ JohanSchwarz

Thank you for your kind advice. Can I suggest you do the same please.

Edit:

Dshka and Maxim range and arc of fire comparison:

I will repeat myself. It's better than Maxim and MG42 because costs 50% MORE.


It can be countered as easily as Maxim. You can get mortar which is a hard counter especially when is very unlikely (I'd even say stupid) for a Soviet player to build T2 with this commander which means your mortar can shoot behind your lines without any threat in the form of enemy mortar shooting you back.

P.S.

I like how you didn't attack my person in the above post at all.

Reasonable, but I prefer my suggestion.
Even if its CP1, its still too effective.

For cost its better DPS, suppression, with a mid of setuptime and arc.

Imo reducing its range dramatically to a short range but extremely effective infantry support weapon is the way to go.

With range reduced, its asymmetrically aligned with Maxim and MG42. MG42 as a wide backline, Maxim as a fast offensive, Dusche as a shortranged force multiplier.

So you basically want this unit to be nerfed so it becomes useless? Why would you spent 360 manpower for something that's another Maxim?

I would like to add something regarding Ace Tiger.
It was 2v2 game so I am not sure if I can talk about it as according to some players 2v2 mode is a completely different game with completely different sets of units and can't be taken seriously but I'll try anyway.

I had a game yesterday with my mate against a other team of decent Germans (one was rank 400 in 2v2, the other one was 150ish). I believe they work as a team as well as their attacks and movements were coordinated. The game was quite even with fuel points swaping sides and all that although we manged to hold onto VPs so we had like 500 VPs when Ace hit the field. I was using Armoured Assault commander my mate was using Partisan commander. This was my first game against Ace commander btw.
The initial appearance and push that occurred with the use of everything they got + Ace striped my off my 2 T-34/85 and heavily damaged my IS-2. We did some loses to them as well but the biggest threat remained surviving I believe 1 ram attempt as well.
Luckily for us we had heavy VPs lead so we just digged in with my Vet2 or 3 ZiS and IS-2 behind the lines waiting for enough resources to call in another pair of T-34/85. Map was Pripyat Spring so it was fairly easy to do so. I mined like crazy before but decided to add some more just to be sure. My mate got some Katyushas so we could bombard their position. I managed to sneak decap one of the VP points on sides. I managed to get these T-34s and succeeded with ram in the end so we have won this but it wasn't easy.
Now it was a 2v2 game so we had a lot of resources and units to our disposal but I can't imagine and Soviet player having access to that in 1v1 game.
This thing 2 shoots T-34s and there are only few Soviet tanks that can actually hurt this thing and the unit is free as well. How this can be even stopped in normal 1v1 game? Well lucky ram would work but what if you don't have access to T-34? These thing just drove over my mates SU-85s taking almost no damage in return. ZiS? Destroyed in 1-2 shoots. Normal T-34 is lucky to penetrate its armour.
From waht I can read on the CoH2 forums 1v1 is destroyed now because of this unit.

I don't understand why these MGs should be better than Maxims, when they don't even require a tech investment as the Maxim does. It both pins and damages more than Maxim or MG42.

IMO this commander completely removes any reason to ever build T2, as it has both the best MG and mortar in the game.

Combined with tank traps and almost free spammable mines (that don't kill whole squads, but merely forces a retreat, as mines should do!), this commander turns the game on its head and makes the soviets much more flexible early-game, maybe too much.

Because these MG cost 360 manpower if I remember correctly. That's 120 more then Maxim and MG42. That's why they should be better. You deal with them as you normally would with any kind of MG.

This commander does remove the reason to build T2. You are correct. I believe this was the idea behind design.

You can use mineseeper against mines rendering them completely useless and loss of ammunition.