Profile of rumartinez89

Ambush bonus applies to Shreck also so they do not really miss the much once at vet2.

Tank hunter partisan did not get reload bonus they used to get 10% penetration bonus.

In sort the unit is cost efficient and remains useful though out the game either as an AT unit or a scout/ (ambush unit) and simply do not "scale horrendously". As I pointed the unit simply can not carry the commander.

Lets take a step back because both units got the first strike bonus at VET2. Overall, AT partisans are worse then they used to be.

Unlocks the "Concussive Trap" ability.

+10% penetration.
+30% accuracy.
-16.66% received accuracy.
+50% accuracy when firing from camouflage.

+10% accuracy.
+20% reload speed.
-23% received accuracy.

So they don't need to rely on camo to avoid damage, it didn't matter if first strike was better as it got both acc and damage. Also I don't understand how the bonus ACC is better than faster reload. The partisans should be able to shoot from around mid range distance so I wouldn't expect them to miss the first shot. It is the 2nd shot that matters late game as shreks take quite a bit longer to reload so the 5 sec acc bonus is useless whereas the bonus reload could be the difference between the vehicle getting away or not, especially if the unit is vetted.

I get what you're saying about player preference, its just an idea. Do you remember if it was 2 or 3 PTRS? As my idea is to avoid using the Penals as the AT unit with a cheap alternative. Thus allowing more synergy with T1. I think if players got a chance to try out a triple PTRS cheap camo unit they would like it as I believe the old Partisans had the old PTRS before they got major buffs.

That is simply wrong.

Partisan are a dirty cheap unit that gets good vet bonuses and good utility.

The commander on the other hand has:
no premium medium
no Super heavy
no Artillery piece
no strong off map

and in sort there are more useful commanders out there for multiplier

Can you explain how I am wrong?

They start with Kar98k, 4 man with option of either PPSH or Shrek.

Base version has the worst final Soviet RA an no utility.
PPSH gets 5man buts still had the worst durability/survivability of all Soviet SMG squads while only having a frag nade as a postive over either PPSH cons/penals. They have less utility compared to Cons and significantly worse squad damage compared to Penals. Only at VET3 along with camo bonus will they hope to deal Vetted PPSH Penal damage.
Their increased molotov range at vet3 is worse compared to cons throwing speed vet, the animation takes so long that the range buff isn't as helpful.
Penals are a better inf based AT squad as they can bully every LV without fear of RNG causing a miss. This leads to better synergy with scout car as PTRS inside of scout car can chase down any LV and even give tanks a scare. AT Partisans will miss and they only get 1 at weapon while also to my knowledge losing the 20 Reload Vet they got under TANK Hunter Partisans.

i have not seen this doctrine around at all in the last ~60 days

why is basically nobody using it? did the partisan rework really kill it

I think it has more to do with better options being available. For me, the two strongest abilities are radio intercept and mark target. For Radio Intercept, there are other commanders that all seem to be better top to bottom. Advance warfare gives you T3485 along with PPSH and loiter, infantry repair is ok but your army is mostly cons anyways so it has use. Armored Assault gets you T3485/IS2/Repairs/Loiter which is all useful but lategame focused while NKVD gets you AT Overwatch/Commissar/Scorched Earth. In 1v1, NKVD is quite powerful as the commissar synergizes well with T1 start and AT overwatch is godly.

Looking at Mark Target, the other two commanders that get it have Guards which synergize well along with a tank upgrade. Guard Motor top to bottom is better in everyway while Mechanized Support can be difficult to counter in team games.

Looking at the rest of the commander, the abilities seem to be lacking. Partisans feel like slightly better cons to start but quickly fall off as their VET is fairly bad. IF you want an infiltration squad, Airborne Guards are in two significantly better commanders. Airborne get PPSH for free while also having 6th man/significantly better VET and only have to wait one more command point. SPY Network is nice but got nerfed to only help the USER not the team so anything with some type of recon is better for the team in team games. Finally, Anti-Tank Gun ambush is extremely meh for a command point in such a weak commander. Maybe if it had been swapped out for Tank-Hunter Ambush it could have lead some strong synergy with the other abilities.

Certain units (like obers and Airborne Guards) can fire LMG while moving in some cases they even use a "different" weapon profile.

Should have been a bit clearer, I know they can walk on the move. I feel like I have seen the specific LMG models shoot despite going the other direction. Like a 360 degree cone of fire.

Bro, I think you could have closed left side of map out in the first 7-8 minutes. I watched with fog of war on to get a sense of what your battlefield knowledge was but I do get some spectator info so some info might be a bit harsh.

I like/love the double MG/double pio opening it worked fairly well especially on that side of the map. If USF has to make a mortar even better as you can have an infantry advantage. The issue that arises is your lack of commitment, your LV into flamer was a great choice was expecting a great push.
But you hid behind the fences driving back and forth, I think you were attempting to attack ground or scared of a snare? Either way you should have burst thru that fence like the Kool-aid man and handed out flames to everyone. You need to get as much ROI as possible since both sides have guaranteed fuel shortening your LV window.
The situation was multiple Paths and 1 Rifle man a few MGs at best. Take the snare if it comes and reverse your way behind buildings to protect yourself from MG. Repair and push again. They were not going to be able to kill it as it would take what 3-4 snares or AT rounds which would necessitate a reload allowing you to get away. So at WORST you take a snare and back up to safety, at best you catch the Allied Player who only had Paths and you force a mass retreat allowing you and teammate to push further up.
For this map I am not 100% double flames would have been better as a AAHT could have really messed you up as pathfinding multiple LV between building can lead to rage inducing moments.
Back to your STRAT, you took way to long to build PG, you need to pop them out as fast as possible as maintaining pressure is paramount while getting as much VET early for your PG is needed. PGs with Vet1 alongside flamers would have bullied what was around while giving USF players pause due to the possibility of Shreks to counter LV.
I think you did a great job placing schu mines, keep it up as it is really unexpected for most players.
As an allied main, you going for a Panther was a win. Your panther ain't doing shit to anything but tanks. If you find yourself in a similar situation again try going for Brumbar first, maybe even 2. Lack of snares allow you to be a bit aggressive with targeting and a bit forgiving if you are out of position you just need to use the reverse button more. I think with how much they were blobbing you wouldn't need to hold fire and just try to get to VET2 as fast as possible. Also due to low USF armor Brum can fight back meaning USF has to worry about possible snare if you do make grens.
The other reason I say to go for Brums is werfers can be quite inconsistent on this map on both sides. On the city side if you are to close to a building your gonna hit it like you did in the game while your targets can hug close to a building and protect themselves from you. Its can be even worse on the forest side as the trees are indestructible.
Lastly, why didn't you upgrade MG on your Panthers? Only one of your teammates had AA, so give him a bit of help while also boosting your AI.