All these stats show is that soviet faction got some old new toys and everybody wants to play with it. That's why there is so many people playing soviets and that's why when you loose as axis it is more probable that you are going to loose against soviets than other factions - more soviet players. Wait a little more till the meta consolidates and then this page will be a great indicator of ballance.
You could be right of course, however from what I've seen from a lot of very good OKW players is that they struggle a lot to deal with soviet tier 1.
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i am sorry, i should not have said that. Still i dont think penals are OP dude
You're welcome to your opinion.
Paula and Jesulin are both way better players than myself, I am not trying to blame penals for my loss, Jeslin is simply better.
But in many 1v1's I've had, penals mixed with guards bully OKW.
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Yes, 0.02-0.03 is definitely serious superiority and not even close to the statistical error.
I think you need to learn to count or read, one of the two. |
all this because paul kicked your ass last night
This has nothing to do with Paula. |
And what's about it? It's 0.567 in 1*1 with average 0.576.
http://coh2chart.com/
It is lower than all allied factions. |
The faction is in such position becouse it lacks classic mid game AT. At some point it simply is not enough to spam raketens and this is much before panther comes on to the field. Shreck blobs were used to fill that gap before, now people cant use them and didn't learn yet to start to use forgotten okw units that were redeemed useless by shrecks before such as puma, JP4 and something all okw players seem to forget about - the mine.
But yeah, this, the weakness of okw faction, has nothing to do with penals. Just as it has nothing to do with m3s.
Don't agree.
6 man flamer squad, not a good idea. |
Well, I might have not played okw 1v1s this patch, as I play much less now than before but I remember playing 1v1s with early LVs both as and against okw before they got all the early game buffs like mg, faust, raketen cone angle increase and so on. It was hard with raketens only back then but perfectly doable. Some players even decided their commander just to get a snare... Now with all the goodies there shouldn't be a single reason to complain.
I think the OKW win rate speaks for itself, that the faction is not in the best state.
However this thread was about penals, not the M3. |
One truck down is hardly a problem. Much earlier than getting T1 + BP1 + T2. And raketen is more than enough till you acheive this. Shot from cloak and a little bit of sturmpio followup and the m3 is down. The only really unreliable thing about the raketen is how long it aims, but this is not much of a problem when you fire from cloaked position so your opponent doensn't know where your cone of fire is.
A cloaked RAK is very slow to move around, a well micro'd M3 will hit different flanks and not stay still.
Unless you've played a lot of 1v1 OKW this patch theory craft isn't very useful. |
It would be understandable if you said that old okw, before shreck changes, were having problem with m3s and other early LVs. But now that on the top of cheap, cloakable, T0 AT gun they also have faust on mainline infantry while keeping the ability to field shreck squads, I must say your point is hard to understand.
Ostheer can only dream about such early AT capabilities while fighting desperately to gather fuel for T2.
Faust requires a truck down, and the RAK is very unreliable. |
Topic opened after losing versus me yesterday in automatch . You were playing in the north spot of Langreskaya as OKW, outplayed by M3A1 during all the game and I only did 1 penal squad. What was your strategy,Wuff? Going a P II without fuel while I was rushing for a T34-76?
Nope, this has bothered me since the new balance patch was released. |
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