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I really love the idea of this Stug challenge, but well. It's damn hard. The best I've been able to come up with is to use as a support for the pz4 for when the almost inevitable moment where the su-85 is fielded. Given it's slightly better range and roughly 20% higher chance of penetrating su-85 front armor, it can apply some reliable pressure to an aggressive su-85. However with it's low amount of hitpoints you will have to do it very carefully if things aren't to end in disaster.
The arguably best scenario I can come up with is one where your stug has reached vet 1, make the su show it's side by running the pz4 in from the flank and land the stun shot on the su from the stug, giving the pz4 a great chance to get in behind the su. Facing fire from both the stug with a good chance to penetrate front armor and the pz4 behind it, the su should be dead in the water.
This could be an effective counter to the su-85 with t3, however it would take some practice, not to mention there should be other soviet units supporting the su-85 that would have to be pressured by support units of your own to give your pz4 a chance to actually escape in one piece. I know it's hypothetical and sounds a bit extreme, but I'll be trying to put this into practice and see if it can be pulled off effectively against players of at least my own level. |
And by the way, everyone, please, stop always use "germans" - nazists were represented with lot of nations, and particulary in Stalingrad there were like 35% of germans and all other were from Bulgaria, Romania, Italy etc.
You ask to be taken seriously and show soviet soldiers respect.. And then proceed to piss on every single soldier who did not share the nazi sentiment. Fine we can call them Axis forces, Ostheer or Wehrmacht, but please have the courtesy to be smart enough to not call them nazi.
By proxy, your own words could be reversed to call every single soviet soldier some really nasty things based on the actions of some. Naturally we'd just see more death threats from the internet army of people in the worlds smallest shoes, so let's refrain from that. |
Funny fact is that from the start I already stated I don`t care how the Soviets are portrayed in the game, because I realize this is just a game
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They could have done the same thing with VCoH, but they didn`t. This is simply the reason Russians are being offended here. Cause God Forbid Relic to tell how the US fought that war and every other Allied nation appart from Russia.
But this isn't the same game. It is a new game attempting to bring something new to the table. I understand the comparison, but I find it to be unfair. Personally I think there should have been an equally grim german campaign in coh 2 from day one. Sadly that wasn't the case, but using that as a carte blanche to make said comparison and take such extreme offense as people have is honestly ignorant and unfair. |
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Sure there are quirks to fix, but the game as a whole has really stolen all my free time and I don't think that will change anytime soon. So thanks Relic, you guys did a good job on the game. Now we just need to have Saint Dogbert rid the community of the demons of stupidity and hopefully we'll see a few good patches. |
I bet you would love this US film producer that raped small kids, then moved to France and became big Film Producer. Who cares about the child raping, his movies are good!!
1st world problems, oh my game god bad review  better rage at all the people that are upset about such unimportant stuff as humanity/valor/honor/courage. Lets all just play videogames in our AC rooms sipping on Coolaid.
So incredibly relevant. Relic are ofc all child molestors and drug dealers etc.
If you have nothing more constructive to bring to the table, you should seriously consider not posting.
When a game company create a game that they and fans truly care for, I can understand the frustration they would feel, when a group of people are whipped into a hate-frenzy that seem to be based on an overdramatized idea that the game is only about insulting Russia. And that from one source that seem to easily form the opinion of many rather than inspire them to have their own opinion on stuff. What an idol he must be.. |
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High heavens forbid that we get a darker, more grim story in in coh2 that takes some of the bad into account as well. Clearly we should stick to glorified censored story telling! (holding up a massive sarcasm sign here).
Game studios should be free to design a game as they visualize it, without having to make sure they that some overly proud people are offended. I get that the russians would like a glorified hero campaign like the ones from vcoh, but guess what - new game - new angle. Personally I enjoy the more realistic feeling of it.
So what if a lot of people, wearing the smallest shoes in the world are offended? Based on something they aren't willing to talk about and something that is downright censored. I have no beef with the russians at all, but I don't give shit for the sense of entitlement shown when you take a stand and declare that the moral of your army and government 50 years ago is not to be debated and that it was the only right thing to do.
Just because a story like this is told doesn't mean the average russian soldiers wasn't a patriot and did what they felt were justified. But that being said we should be allowed to see all the aspects of it and be able to talk about it. Preferably without some whiny pricks downvoting a game to hell based on a sense of moral righteousness, that they aren't willing to discuss at all.
All that put aside the topic is extremely overhyped and should be allowed to die out hopefully sometime fast, when people are done feeling insulted by it. |
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That is pretty much how it looks on my pc when I'm going for highest settings. |
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It says nothing about balance. Let's for a second assume that I prefer to play germans (which I do) and I really suck as soviet (which I also do) I would naturally be stronger as german in a game.
It's not unreasonable to speculate that the same is valid for the players in the vod. There are a lot of people who prefer Ostheer because it's more similar to what they are used to from CoH. If we for a second just consider the chance that both teams simply are better alround as germans than as soviets, then it really isn't a balance issue at all.
For example in game 1 Hans and Noluckystrike actually takes pretty much the entire map before losing some of it again. It would be quite rational to reach the conclusion that they simply made errors as soviet rather than blame it on balance.
If you want to conclude that 2v2 isn't viable atm, get some data gathering going that proves that an absurd majority of 2v2's are won by german players and make your case. Not based on this.. |
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