Profile of Wehrwolf

G43 is commander specific, Cons have a commander specific weapon too. Its 2 options vs 1 or 1 option vs 0 depending on if you're bringing commanders into the equation or not.

lmg42 vs merge/oorah, I can't say which is better but thats asymmetrical balance for you & those two things have to be factored into the inclusion of a none commander weapon.

I'd like to add Bulletins to that list. That they require level is irksome but add to that some random "do xyxy 20 times" & its a nightmare. You're totally reliant on the games current meta, I can't kill 20 T34s if 0 players will build them (I picked an easy to name unit for an example, no balance was harmed during the making of this point!).

Add to that the differing requirements for some e.g. the bulletin formerly known as 4% dmg for cons/grens. Use much needed ability xx times vs kill xx heavy tanks!

People are farming them, if we had lobbies atm they would probably be filled with people offering to trade bulletins in games for that sole purpose. I can't speak for others but it puts me off multiplayer, balancing an rts is hard but bulletins require every unit to be balanced 2 or 3 times.

I have other issues but they're with Sega/Relic as opposed to CoH2 & were discussed in the relevant thread.

Stonethecrow I understand Relic was going through a tough patch. I just wish they had said at the time "disclaimer- the commanders,skins & tow pack free with preorders will be taken from the DCE".

The fact of the matter is Standard edition preorders recieved a bonus for doing so & DCE preorders didn't. It can be dressed up any way you like but this is the cold hard truth of the matter.

All I can do is voice my opinion on the matter, I'm fully aware I wont recieve anything Noun was kind enough to come in & say as much but as I know they were seeing my views I can hope they went back to Sega & said "hey guys this is what your policy has done, those who preordered our DCE are the ones you alienated".

If my words have reached the policy makers ears then I've done what I set out to.

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People, lets try to remain civil here. We've put our point across, caps & swearing doesn't help anyone.

Do I wish I'd recieved a different answer? yes, but I didn't & the fact is there was no preorder bonus for DCE.

While I respect that Noun came in put his hands up & said "Okay, I get what you're saying and I certainly see where you're coming from." It hasn't changed my feelings on the matter or the credibility hit that Relic has taken from this.

I'm rather disheartened by this affair, I guess in this new age of PC gaming loyalty will have to be its own reward xD. You can blame the developer or publisher but it changes nothing.

Thanks for your time.

Dear Relic,
I'm writing this to express my vexation with the manner customers who preordered the digital collectors edition were treated. I've posted several times in the "new commanders/ new units" thread to try & get this off my chest but it just didn't alleviate my frustration in this matter.

I am not complaining about what was included in the DCE, it is what it is (although this was never clear prerelease if we're being totally honest with each other). My issue is the fact that had I not upgraded my preorder to a DCE I would of been entitled to 4 commanders, 2 skins & 1 ToW pack, but due to the fact I chose to support the company to the best of my abilities & pay an extra £30 I gave this privilage up.

Last weekends 33% sale means I could of purchased the DCE & saved the extra £30 I paid without losing a single thing (game had already dropped £10 in price, my maths isn't that appalling!).With that said I'd like to ask the following question.

Why are players who preordered the standard edition entitled to the above mentioned bonus content while DCE owners have no such entitlement & why should people who put their faith & wallets behind relic prerelease be treated in the same manner as people who picked up the DCE pretty much 3 months to the day after launch?

I know its a doublebarreled question but if someone from Relic (or Sega, I'm not fussed xD) would be so kind as to provide me with an answer I'd be most grateful.

I'm not an active member of the community, you wont see me posting left right & center, I stay out of balance discussions (I'm not good enough to have an informed opinion & I know this). I am however a long term customer & I'm always lurking on the .org (I don't really bother with the official forums its like Dodge city without the sheriff there).

If you took the time to read this I thank you for it & apologise if any part seemed rude or ranty, I assure you that was not my intention, I always try to be polite & constructive but I feel rather strongly about this issue so if that got the better of me once again I apologise.

Sincerely Wehrwolf.