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Why the conscript hate? They are perfectly useful units as the game goes on. If they werent, people wouldn't be doing 4-5 conscript openings as a matter of course. As if they had another inf unit to choose from tho

Nice post focusing on 1vs1 gameplay. Great analysis !

But in 3vs3 or 4vs4 (bigger maps), its the German war machine with it's fast tanks that win the day most of the time given even strength players.

To help solve both problematics, i suggest :
Germans need: non doctrinal FwHQ vCoh style + cheaper mines.

Soviets need: Swap Doctrinal T34/85 with Su85. Reduce penal bat. to 310 manpower.

Before changing the builds specifically for 4v4s I would really like to see how implementing resource sharing would impact COH2.

My impression is that people just tech as quickly as possible and then spam end game units like panthers or elefants and powerful abilities.

1. I think resource sharing should be a no brainer for inclusion in team games. a +20 fuel income would turn into +5 for each player in a 4v4, +7 for 3v3, or +10 for 2v2.

2. Alternately they could simply replace many of the high value points with basic territorial control points, maybe leave 1 high fuel 1 high munition in the center to fight over as bonus income.

3. Third option could be to artificially increase the price of teching (german tiers, sov buildings) depending on the number of players in a match. Ex. 200% cost modifier applied to in a 4v4, 150% in a 3v3, 125% in a 2v2. This presumes that soviet and german tiers are equal which ATM I dont believe is correct, however the concept is valid after any rebalancing off tier meta.

I also liked your idea in your thread a while back about giving custom games more options. I see no reason other than difficulty in programming (if there is any, I wouldnt know) to implementing custom options like no bulletins, no commanders, no heavy tanks, whatever as checkboxes when setting up a game lobby. Obviously this wouldn't apply at all to ranked matches.

I don't think 120mms are that amazing.
The precision strike doesn't really seem that accurate. I don't even bother using it. Normal mortar precision strike is way better.

You need to switch gears when 120mm hits the field. Keep moving, decap, ditch the lmgs and spam rifle nades instead. Since the 120mm airtime is so huge and it has a very distinct sound, just back away your capping squads and cap with low value units instead rather than vetted grens and panzer grenadiers.

Sure, you can get lucky with it sometimes but there are so many ways to get your infantry killed in this game.

I dont find them inaccurate at all, whether or normal or precision strike so I dont know why you say that. Unless the target moves a precisions strike hits spot or close enough

Capping with low value units isnt always possible aka close games. It has a very distinct sound for the soviet player who is hovering around it, not so much for his opponent looking at his own units. So yes I agree germans should drop everything and change how they play because a 1cp unit is on the field B)

hey really fun game, thanks for the GG!

I don't understand how having access to panzerfausts, the PAK, and the panzershrek upgrade for pgrens by tier 2 can be construed as lacking a hard counter for soviet's tier 3 unit: the t70. Upgunned scoutcars tear through t70 rear armor nicely as well, especially with vet.

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Also, there is the german AT mine. Albeit it is expensive, but it's pretty much a oneshot kill, and even if the t70 doesn't hit it, no soviet tank handles hitting that mine well. Infantry not setting off mines can often make a combined arms push quickly lack any combined arms.

PAKs are so slow and often innacurate (yay RNG) that people will just drive right past them. If you watch vonivans stream or andy they will buy 3 and just purposely drive up to it and decrew it. they might lose one or two but at that point it doesnt matter because it was the only threat to their rush

More importantly PAKs are defensive and you cant push without vehicle support outside of your immediate defensive area because a t70 can float along the perimeter and hit where the PAK isnt - mobility

Teller mines work great 95% of the time (I've seen a t70 survive occasionally) but smart players will avoid main roads when t70 rushing. Worse its hard to even get the munitions for mines in the first place in a game with heavy soviet pressure on your resources

Shrecks are kited by a t70 and pgrens will then die when they try to retreat. Also 120 munitions is way too expensive

T70s could use a small speed/mobility nerf (its a tank not a race car) but the meta that gets them out at 9 mins in as much at fault too, if not more so
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Munition costs are voluntary for soviets (abilities) and mandatory for ostheer (upgrades). Thats a flawed balance that contributes to soviets having an easier time managing munitions

Worse the cost of a 120mm precision strike, which will instantly kill a squad or support weapon is only 45 munitions... as much as a frag grenade. Difference is frag grenades you see coming, and they dont launch from halfway across the map. GG

Demo charges require no upgrades, not even the minesweeper one for 30muns, and at 90mun will kill any squad/squads in the game outright. they probably tear up vehicles but I dont see people using them against that. Good bye vet3 PGREN squad 25 mins into a close game because you tried to capture a VP. Ostheer naturally cant build them for some reason