Profile of CieZ

Why curb down the players? So it's OK to have a bug in the game? People get banned for playing the game?

Relic should have fixed it ages ago instead of leaving it's game in a broken state. It takes 5 minutes to fix.

Why should the community stand by as people essentially cheat? Isn't fair play one of the foundations of every game ever? Whether it be an athletic sport, board game, card game, video game, etc?

I'm curious as to whether or not you've seen or experienced the bug in action. I'm not saying this sarcastically or to attack you... but this isn't your average run of the mill bug that can be exploited for a minor advantage... you can permanently make your infantry run many times faster than retreating squads and tanks while also doing ridiculous damage and being nigh un-killable. By using the bug you're effectively stat hacking in a very real way, and there's literally no way to counter it, prevent it, or play around it. It completely breaks the game.

Sure Relic probably should have fixed it by now, but it doesn't seem like a quick "five minute" fix sort of thing.

Scummy Jove and Mohicians doing scummy things.

Not surprised.

No respect for either of these morons.

I'm pretty sure B4's will feel the nerfhammer soon.

I truly hope so. The B4 is disgustingly overpowered.

I think its important to compare units to their alternatives and use specifics rather than speaking about fast good bad small large. These are the AOE numbers at which these units do 80 damage AKA kill full hp models, basically the AOE at which they 1 shot(scatter matters for consistency but this is potential with good RNG)

7.3 Sturmtiger
2.575 ISU152
2.35 KV2
2.05 KT
1.975 105 Sherman
1.95 Brumbar
1.75 Is-2
1.5 Katusha
1.45 tiger
*1.4 scott*
1.325 Sherman HE
1.125 Panzer 4
1.1 T34
1.1 T34-85
1.0 Stug E
.875 ez8/Soviet Sherman/Sherman AP rounds
.75 command p4
.65 ISU AP
.425 Stuart
.175 panther

When i saw this thread i was like Garden no scotts aren't OP i don't even build that pudding. However it is right next to the tiger, and higher than every medium tank on this list in terms of 1 shot potential.(or course mgs play a part on those tanks though)
I don't like that this unit has arc fire, it feels weird for a light vehicle its not a brumbar/dozer. I believe the unit should do less damage(80-100 instead of 120) but return it to direct fire so it will be less potent but function as a more versitle and reliable vehicle. It will pop units with lower damage but the damage will be consistent since it won't be slow and inaccurate vs moving units.(which is why i generally don't build it often now)

Nice numbers to give us more concrete data to work with in the thread, thanks Honeynuts.

The Scott also has 60 range (20 range advantage over the Tiger/Is-2/mediums) and shoots super fast. Like every 2.something seconds. Too lazy from last night's partying to look up the exact value of the reload

let me translate this:

"Ciez is a pro player. Cies disagrees so the Ubersoldaten are not op because Ciez is a pro and the opinion of a pro is right and if 1000 people say something other they are idiots and have no rights to discuss balance because they are not pros."

I've said numerous times in the past that Obers are OP - and I've also given many suggestions on how to nerf them. I didn't directly say "omg Obers are OP" in this thread because it wasn't relevant to the thread until you randomly brought up this goofy example. They're quite high on my list of Axis units that should be toned down.

Today I learned the Scott was OP. All this time I had considered it pretty much worthless in 1vs1 ever since the great direct fire nerf because the Sherman does the exact same thing while also being able to crush and having double the health pool and crappy AT on demand.

I see Scott as the (only) USF anti-infantry vehicle for late game teamgames where shermans have the life expectancy of an ostheer sniper in the middle of a rifleblob.

Scotts are probably better in team games than 1v1s but they're still strong on the right maps (Semos/La Gleize/Stalingrad come to mind). I think Aimstrong had a 30+ kill Scott in his 1v1 against OMGPOP in the most recent tourney.

You yoursefl mentioned ISU (but not KT, I just wonder why).

Of course KT is a way more expensive, that's why it wipes everything, has nice reload duration, armor, turret, penetration... Everything. One-unit army.
You need 120 fuel to unlock KT but how many fuel you need to unlock M8? 140 or... 170! and 13 pop cap....

I think I would hesitate between M8 and Stuka if I could choose.

I was watching yesterday stream of Romeo. He made M8 and was missing all the time ^^

I mentioned the *old* ISU when saying that the only unit I can think of that randomly wipes squads more often than the M8 was the old ISU. Nothing, not even the KT, has ever come close to wiping squads as often as the pre-patch ISU.

And I think that was your attempt at subtly calling me and Axis fanboy? Maybe not... not sure how to take it.

Oh, and last time I checked 40 + 40 + 90 is more than 120. Although I'm not sure why the amount of fuel required to unlock something is at all relevant to the discussion at hand... No matter how you try and spin it, the KT is the most expensive tank in the game - so it should be the best individual tank in the game. Contrary to your belief, it's actually pretty damn counter-able.