Profile of darkerdayzud

I think you're trying to do too much in too little time with too few resources.

First off, let me ask you this - do you really need stormtroopers AND Pgrens AND an Ostheer sniper? That's a lot of manpower on very few squads - squads that you will always want in combat, not around the map capping. Sure you could add some Pios to the mix to cap, but now you're going to be fighting exclusively with expensive units - thus you'll be lacking any kind of true infantry based backbone, as well as reasonable access to fausts. For starters I think you cut the sniper, cut the Pgrens and just use a couple of gren squads.

Maybe something like 3x Gren, 1 MG 42, tech T2. From there you could tide yourself over with either a 251 HT or a 222 (depending on how good your vehicle micro is). By this point you should be close, if not already to Stormtroopers. Just make sure you add at least 1 PaK 40 whenever enemy vehicles would hit the field - it'll have to be quite early against USF if they went LT tech. Against Soviet you can always abuse looking into the fog for tech structures.

In order to get a Panther in any reasonable amount of time in a 1v1 you're going to be investing a lot of MP into teching, so you'll probably want to camp your side of the map more than going on the offensive so that you can bleed as little as possible. I wouldn't necessarily recommend going straight to a Panther in a 1v1, but if you do get there you should be in a really good spot. Make sure you don't hit any mines and then you can go on the offensive.

While I agree 100% with the first part of your statement...(choice of units beeing waaaayy too expensive for it to be viable) , I dont think the 3x gren 1x MG tech is solid enough vs USF at the moment (anything goes vs Soviets so feel free). Even the 222 will get wrecked by a good US player. You just cant skip Grens vs US (vs Soviets also IMO), there is no way, and 4 Grens is a minimum or you will have a very bad day. MG42 is useless right now and using it early will result in a serious lack of map control, making it so youll never get to Panthers fast enough.

LMG Grenadiers are Gold in the current Meta. Grens + PAKS (I always go for 2) can take on anything US. And then I just dont see why you would want to spend manpower AND precious munis on Stormtroopers. Pgrens do just fine...late game with Shrecks are a great counter vs any US Tank.

Finally...Panthers vs Tiger? ...Doing things for the sake of beeing different is great, but your gonna give yourself a headache. They both cost about the same (Tech cost included) and come out at the same time. But Tiger will shred EVRYTHING, while panthers cant do anything vs Infantry (which to me is the dumbest thing!!).

Storms/Panthers in a 2v2 maybe....in a 1v1 not rly.

Mostly map balance needs to be addressed. Maps like stalingrad are cool visually, but feck all use for 1's ladder matches.

Aside from that, a tiny adjustment to the unit AI and traverse speed would be lovely, but nothing too radical, as the MG42 a long time ago was dominating the meta. Don't want a return to that either.

I dont know....I mean, without it dominating the meta...I still think the MG42 should be a no brainer for ANY Oshteer Strat. Right now Ostheer is considered weakest faction, and I think this is due (amongst other things) to the MG not performing. I myself am not against bringing it back close to its former glory.

Main issue in the smaller games I find with the 42 are the maps. Either there is too much green cover preventing its job, or the map is too narrow/crowded to make use of its range/ effectively spot flanks before they can hit. Semoisky, the 42 can't be effectively used in the center of the map until most of the green cover gets bowled down, yet that is also a vital area since it allows you to reach the cut-off of munitions on both sides. La Glaieze(sp), way too cramp/narrow streets to make use of range/arc, and they can catch the Mg out of position. Northern Part of the map on Road to Kharkov, green cover at your cut-off, buildings further south makes it role at suppressing diminshed. Stalingrad, why does this exist in automatch?

Khlodeny, while a bit more cramped, does have considerable amount of areas where an MG can lock down 1-2 points. Langreskya, 42 generally perform well since the only the hedges in the middle can bring unexpected surprises and even then they can generally be spotted before the enemy reaches the Mg or the point you are defending.

Only thing it really needs fixed is reloading during combat, and the thing firing the tiniest burst at the start when it decides to fire and occasionally not suppressing for some strange reason.

TLDR: Most maps bad/too narrow for Ostheer that relies on weapon teams.

Somehow...I NEVER get Langres anymore...Im guessing at higher level Allies always veto it. You forgot Minsk Pocket. MG42 is great here too...but still.

And vs US faction the MG42 is just shit! Because of the early vehicle play. You can get away with adding an MG42 to your mix vs Soviets....but never vs US. I think here, it would be a case of Relic finding a way to delay vehicle play for US, focusing more on Infy in the first 5-10mins.

open up with 2 engies + 4 grens ...go cap like an insane person. (as Bryan mentioned)

You'll be facing 2 maybe 3 Penals and a sniper early on....Soviet will have zero map control. With 6 squads of infantry it is ez to bullrush or flank the sniper. Use buildings to block line of sight....get a mortar truck...S-mines...LMGs..and/or fast tech to Ostwind.

2x Snipers is a bit of a pain on more open maps, but is very manageable on Semoi or Kholodny. Practice..youll get the hang of dealing with it. I used to have trouble with it too

I tend to agree with Bryan...but I dont think the 5 gren opening is necessary vs Soviets. 1 HMG is good and fun, a mortar (or mortar truck also).

Its a bit sad that tier 3 is so underused at the moment, but you could try and go for it. Get a quick Ostwind to deal with Shocks!(you can be reactive and go with P4 if you see no shocks) You will have to get at least 2 paks to deal with any armor. And this will delay your Tiger a bit but not as much as you might think.

Vs soviets : 3 Grens, 1 or 2 HMG, Mortar ...fast tech to tier 3 Ostwind...then back tech to get 2x Paks and Pgrens...later a Tiger.


Vs US : Sadly...this is not a fun matchup, and anything but 4-5 Gren opening into Pak is gonna be ridiculously hard to play. (vs good players of course)