I was just thinking of making a topic about them lol,
Remove the weapon upgrades. SVTs are good and staying without any other upgrades would differentiate them from other guards squads. Add utility with elite camouflage, TM38 mines, and replace IL2 strafe with IL2 smoke bomb/run at vet 0. Cost to 340mp and 2CP.
Please no. Don't make em as shit as stormtroopers. I like my soviet para's that fuk everything at every range. |
While I do agree that Stug was overly aggressive in the beginning, you cannot blame him for your faults. You also tried to nitpick on actual tests and calculations with mostly false arguments while multiple people pointed it out. All this without showing any acceptance that you might be wrong and that's the main issue why this thread went downhill quickly.
Everybody is wrong sometimes, just accept it and move on. Don't blame others.
Ok, you right I should have been more respectful to others. Multiple people did pointed it out it was wrong but but no one said what was the correct way either. |
Yes it does just take THAT little to trigger these allied crybabies.
The op is trying to FORCE everyone to think that agrens are op just like how some were criticizing me of doing the same about the Brum. Except StugLife was generous enough to actually test agrens and post results showing that they were balanced, but the op just wants to live in his little bubble where he is always right.
OK, can you prove that calling ass grens is OP is my narrative??? I understand it's difficult for people to not be able to put other people inside a box that they understand, even so can you show me how am I saying they are OP??? Sure, I may come across as being to good to be corrected, but that's stug life's fault. I can be wrong but call me an a**hole from the start and then expecting me care is a bit too optimistic don't you think. |
OP has like 20 games as Ostheer and no clue what he’s talking about in general. If he thinks assgrens OP, let him think that. Why bother? M8 did you read the thing at all?? can you read at all??? |
The best solution in my opinion would be to give mediums lower target size and a larger window of opportunity by delaying heavy tank deployment.
So allies can dominate the early game with infantry then proceed to dominate the mid game with LV and support weapons and then proceed to dominate the mid-late game with mediums until the axis heavy arrives at super late game with barely any army to work with. Seem good. I'd like to win easy with my multiple t34/85's. |
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If coh1 is allowed: "A bullet hit me once, bounced right off, worth more than any medal" -Panther |
Spend less time testing DPS and more time playing so you can have fun and improve. Mechanics are cool. why would I not learn and obsess over them???? And I already have fun in the game dealing with mechanics is another type of fun. Try it you may like it. |
Automatic weapons don't work like that. They spread out their damage and don't focus down models one by one.
Commandos win 19/20 times against 6 men Assault Grenadiers.
With overwhelming results in most engagements too.
The difference for the reload changes is so small I didn't bother to look it up. Assgren DPS could very well be this but the difference is so small it doesn't matter in the comparison. I did indeed forget to mention that I used the old DPs, though.
On Commandos DPS I trust that Cruzz' stats are correct. If they aren't then good catch, but it only puts the comparison even more into Commandos' favor.
Ok, Could you describe testing methodology: I like to be more accurate(correct is the term here) in future.
Question(man I have so many of these now): Would not in the initial burst 2 of ass gren models focus on 1 model of the commandos and how the search algorithm of the models work?? does it not target the the model closest to it. Also is each burst focused on a target or each bullet in a burst switches targets?? |
Automatic weapons don't work like that. They spread out their damage and don't focus down models one by one.
Commandos win 19/20 times against 6 men Assault Grenadiers.
With overwhelming results in most engagements too.
The difference for the reload changes is so small I didn't bother to look it up. Assgren DPS could very well be this but the difference is so small it doesn't matter in the comparison. I did indeed forget to mention that I used the old DPs, though.
On Commandos DPS I trust that Cruzz' stats are correct. If they aren't then good catch, but it only puts the comparison even more into Commandos' favor.
Ok, Could you describe testing methodology: I like to be more accurate(correct is the term here) in future.
Question(man I have so many of these now): Would not in the initial burst 2 of ass gren models focus on 1 model of the commandos and how the search algorithm of the models work?? does it not target the the model closest to it. Also is each burst focused on a target or each bullet in a burst switches targets?? |
Umm, you are schooling on correct units stats a guy who balanced them.
So every one on the balance team knows absolutely every thing about the game. I'm sorry the 14.1 dps on commandos was changed fair amount of time ago. It's his fault to be in the balance team and not remember/know this, not mine. And everyone should be open to being corrected. |
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