Problem with the il-2 rocket strafe is the nerf only made it unreliable. There's a chance it will be every bit as powerful as it is in live, and also a chance it'll be like slapping a wet noodle across an Abrams because what we need more of is skill shots that may do nothing at all even if pulled off perfectly...
The main problem is not IL-2 Roc Strafe, but conscripts that being to efficient
I think it too, it is so hard againts Sov with conscripts build rather than penal build |
And imagine hulldown panther with spoting scope (also with panzer tactician for safe escape) supported with Command Panther.
Give us commander patch life
can't this strat be done in team matches now? *except Pi4 tac smoke
has this been a meta until now? |
If de-hulldown taking so much times, Soviet Anti tank overwatch will eat all the tanks that hulldown |
I thought mortar has been standardized, and all units with flare get that skill on vet 1. But why this mortar is not? |
Why PM-41 skill flare not moved to vet 1? this skill is too good on team match |
Since the SU85 and ISU are getting nerfed and the T34 ram is locked with vet now, what's the most viable way to fight an Elefant or other super heavy in team games? The standard answer is flanking but with how dense 4v4s get and how squishy T34s are (plus Panthers are getting buffed) that's often not viable, especially since when I use the Elefant I mine all of the flanking routes. Mark target + SU85? |
But even though you can pump out more, they don't become more effective with numbers, they still suck at AT. It's never worth getting 5 t34/76 because they penetrate so unreliably. As far as I'm concerned I'm ok with that, but ram helps alleviate their lackluster AT performances. I agree its AI capabilities are definitely usable and have their place, but I think that your argument of "you can make more" doesn't consider the fact that making more of them doesn't put them on an equal footing as, say, the PIV. Also, in late game they are pretty much useless which, again, I'm fine with. But from the changes I see here, I see no reason to build them at any point, and would prefer going for double t-70 haha.
Ram gave them a situational opportunity to essentially sacrifice themselves and let other units do the AT job. A ram by itself doesn't do anything. And furthermore, getting a T34/76 at vet 1 is not as easy as you make it seem to, since their At performances are lackluster.
tl;dr I think you should leave them exactly as they are
but in reality, rarely see it happens. t34 ram always followed by offmap skills
i test a little bit, and i think t34 ram now is a trash |
76mm isn't bad. It's AI is great. It (and other armour) however would benifit from a much higher close pen so they are not useless against stronger tanks. Harder to use and generate risk, but not useless
I am agree that t34 is not that bad. With that commander i always find them build 2 t34 to bully infantry or it can be use to execute the combo. t34 presence is already a threat |
That's why you need to scout it out first. In 1v1 KT is not used because of obvious reasons. 2v2 it can be used and it synergizes well with scouting units or any sort of forward vision. Generally it's not the smartest thing to put your KT on the front line if you KNOW the enemy has that combo. It's a doctrinal combo so you won't always play against it but if you do know, don't put KT first.
The whole combo is RNG dependent but you do need to have smoke ready from your support gun if you are playing against that combo.
My KT has commander on board and spearhead ability ON, so its vision is like scoped Elefant that always ON if you are moving. It can see SU-85 without SU-85 shot it, and if i move forward im not putting my KT on front lines without any support. i even dropped smoke from planes (its fast smoke) after that ram and still got deleted |
Yes, maybe I'm a little overboard about the damage.
I mean according to their roles, KT at least can move ahead to open up a battle an take a few AT shot before retreating to heal, but if you do this that KT will surely deleted by that combo
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