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Thread: Ostheer T2 Skip26 Jun 2019, 04:45 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2019, 09:37 AMMaret Problem with T2 skipping not in HMG spam, but in combo 3 Mg-42+early PGrens with shrecks+early Ostwind. Such 9:30-10 minutes combo very hard to counter. This is my main reservation. There are very strong incentives to prioritize skipping T2 but rejigging the tier and/or building costs is a good way to handle this, as some have suggested. Perhaps also increasing the MU cost of the 'shrecks to delay their appearance. A light touch is needed here. While I never thought they needed moving in the first place, I think it could work with some minor changes. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF “problems” (mine at least)23 Jun 2019, 15:32 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Jun 2019, 12:23 PMSp33dSnake Honestly, .50 Cal should be a call in like DShk. MG teams should've been based on the .30 M1919. Fewer units (3), performs somewhere in between a Vickers and an MG34. Longer times between reloads. Performs better as a faster, mobile MG rather than the typical emplaced MG. I think the .50 is the worst MG team in the game, or at least tied with the Maxim. +1 for the M1919, it's bizarre to have a .50 cal as your standard mg. But if you rate mgs by their suppression then the Maxim is far worse than the .50 cal. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do you find Un-fun about coh2?23 Jun 2019, 15:22 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2019, 19:09 PMSkysTheLimit Blobbing. MGs from all factions should punish blobbers. Only the mg42 does so reliably, and even that can get melted from inside it's cone by lmg blobs. MGs should be less diverse, more consistent. Looking at you maxim Infantry in general take a long time to be suppressed by mgs unless it's the MG42 (higher rof and supp) or a true HMG like a .50 cal or DShK (massive supp). Maxims got a bit of help in the last update from their Sustained Fire ability getting +25% supp boost but that forces a reload before it takes effect, which negates any attempt to use it against a sudden blob. It should just take effect instantly and reload during if necessary. For me, it's facing multiple heavy armor units. ATM that means Tigers and Panthers (a medium I know), but can also mean "superheavy" units like the Jagdtiger which outrange most opposing AT. I know their wunderwaffen are a key part of what makes Axis fun but they're so common and so tough, it's a chore. Which is why I'm not happy about rumors that they're planning to reduce all heavies to 0cp or something in the next balance patch. That would annihilate most medium armor from ever being used again. You'd see TDs on Allies and heavies on Axis and that's it, apart from some niche units like the Ostwind or Centaur. That's not fun. This'd piss people off but I'd support a call-in limit of 1 heavy and 1 superheavy active per team per match, if they do it. This way you can replace them if lost, but you can't dominate the field with them. Would be amusing to watch people race each other so they get to play with the big tank. It would also ensure they'd become proportionally more valuable in larger team games. If we're talking AI, it's their love of team weapons and their massive resource boosts meaning it's raining arty if they get the right deck. Former causes the battlefield to become a MG/AT/mortar graveyard, waiting to rise again, and the latter ensures any static position is essentially worthless. No fun! Also, for some reason the AI is really no good with OKW; sometimes they just don't deploy their HQs until very late in the game. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: New Commander Update Patch June 14th18 Jun 2019, 18:09 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 17:05 PMCombCrab When you select a unit, it will not only display all weapons available to them and their stats, but their armor(if not shown, its the default value of 1), target size and health(except for infantry, all of which, except for snipers, have 80 health), for vehicles it also shows max speed, acceleration and rotation rate. All weapons have penetration at near, mid and far ranges in their stat list in the "Basic" section. Ah I see, I didn't click around enough. I'll keep this on-hand. Just played a quick match with USF: Rear Echelons sure are dangerous now. 60MU feels pretty cheap for how far they can lob those grenades, and the damage they do, even with the minimum range. Very useful! Never been a fan of dozer blade upgrades and this hasn't changed my mind. Fuel is better spent elsewhere. The WP almost makes it worthwhile but you're still pouring 130 fuel into a regular Sherman; better spent on the Calliope. RE squads can make up for it! Rangers feel pretty good, more well-rounded. Calliope seems nice, strikes more like the Katyusha. I'll have to use it more. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New Commander Update Patch June 14th18 Jun 2019, 16:52 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 16:33 PMSander93 You can find individual weapon stats here: https://coh2db.com/stats/ Most weapons are still up to date, except for a few that have been changed in the last year (you can find these in the changelogs on the official forums). Thank you, this will help. M1A1 carbines are surprisingly potent on paras, but as expected not as potent as PPShs (on Shock). Guess there's something to my hypothesis after all. Anything similar for armor values, AT penetration etc? I've been to that site but never realized it had stats too. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New Commander Update Patch June 14th18 Jun 2019, 14:36 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 12:25 PMSander93 For the record: - Tigers were changed because all heavy tanks are supposed to get the same treatment next big balance patch. - Panzergrenadiers do not have smoke grenades by default. They get them from the "Breakthrough Equipment" ability in the Strategic Reserves commander. Noted. PGs smoke is still buffed by veterancy tho. I have no objection to them paying for it. And if they're really going to drop all heavies to 0cp (?) reducing the price of light and medium armor would be a good idea. The dominance of heavies would only be reinforced otherwise. Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2019, 12:25 PMSander93 - Why are 3 DP-28s excessive and expensive? They're cheaper than 2x M1919s for Paratroopers (120MU) while giving roughly the same DPS. DP-28s are pretty bad LMGs, that's why they get 3. I don't like halving the SVTs in the squad for a bad mg. I also think 120 for the M1919s is a bit excessive considering paras are armed with carbines (IIRC still cheaper than fetching two from the base at 140!). Wonder how effective Guard airborne'd be with PPSH and DP-28s. Might be a way to distinguish them from Shock troopers (other than abilities) and make their performance somewhat similar to US paras, though obviously more potent at short range (but paras have Thompsons for that). Seeing as I'm new to these debates, a link to where I can find current stats would be nice. Though I don't mind being corrected either. More feedback: OKW: Happy with what's been done with the Panzerfusiliers. Much more useful than they were before with the different upgrade paths. There's now a reason to use them alongside Volksgrenadiers. EDIT: mind you, it is a little strange that they're unevenly sized. Perhaps keep them at 5 for the G43 upgrade and reduce the price. Changes to the Kubelwagen and le.IG 18 are fine. A bit scary now it's technically possible to field a command Tiger alongside a Konigstiger on top of Panthers. We'll see how this travels. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New Commander Update Patch June 14th17 Jun 2019, 22:57 PM Preliminary thoughts: Ostheer: 0cp Tigers make no sense when other doctrines have to wait until 13cp, especially for Tiger Aces. This shouldn't have made it out the gate (as the evidence shows). But I am glad for a less ridiculous Tiger Ace. Ostheer having MGs and assault infantry in tier 1 makes them more potent than OKW. Can't have both imo, other factions have to pay fuel for that combo. Also undermines assault grenadiers. Could always move the MG42 out to tier 2, but... PGs were fine where they were — with their halftracks. A better option would be buffing pioneer MP-40s — combined with the satchel charges they'll be quite useful. PGs should get their combined arms upgrade in any deck but still have to pay for it like in Infantry Doctrine rather than it being tied to veterancy — they already get smoke grenades which are buffed at vet 3 on top of that. Approaching the ridiculous. Fine with the Ostwind; it's supposed to be a dangerous piece of work and I missed using it. And I can finally start using assault grenadiers again too. Mobile Observation Posts strike me as their answer to OKW IR halftracks. Do the germans really need two of these? I guess it gives halftracks another use but they already had one. StuG buffs? Great! Soviet: Can't see why Guard Airborne get a free PPSH upgrade, especially when it grants new abilities. Should have a small ammo cost. Kinda exploitable right now because it can be changed so quickly. 3 DP-28s is also excessive and expensive. Scale it back to 2 and lower the price. It's nice to have engineers with SVTs, albeit only in 1 doctrine. The dps boost makes them more useful... and they're not good for much else (not even sandbags!). Would be nice for them to get SVTs stock. (I can dream right?) Conscript buffs are welcome but the AT upgrade feels a bit too cheap, 15 ammo instead. Not overly concerned with the SU-76 yet. Don't care about M-42 debuff and M5 buff is welcome. Haven't played other factions yet. In: COH2 Balance