As the game currently stands once a decent wher player gets out panthers and supports them properly its essentially game over. I've been playing since alpha and the majority of my panther kills has been sinking them on the ice, now I use the ram just to take them out of the fight, if they are immobilised/main gun destroyed you don't even need to kill it, just focus down the supporting troops and let the panther drain their manpower.
Please use some sense when throwing the general 'use combined arms' argument. If I have guards, at guns, Su 85s and conscripts, they likely have panzergrenadiers, MGs, snipers and their own at guns.
Should ram cost munitions; yes. Should it destroy the main gun; yes as long as you hit the tank in the direction the gun is facing. This way you can at least micro your tank to attack ground behind yourself to keep you're gun intact, or do we not appreciate micro anymore in this game.
Panthers can kill infantry, effective as t34 or an ostwind? no. but if it gets enough shots off it can pick off infantry especially if your constantly reversing. Also against units with no AT like shocks you can just go in and crush.
Finally, the main problem is that panthers have slightly too much armour, and the t34, even the 34/85 penetration is too low. Armour needs a slight decrease (not over the top) and penetration also needs a slight increase. They shouldn't pen the front but at least be reliable on the side or rear. And for those struggling vs ram, lay mines, use shrecks/fausts, at guns and stugs.
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