Profile of The_Flying_Flail

Thoughts?

Purpose: To Bring Another Flavor to an Already Unique Commander

This commander requires the user to use partisan units actively in order to make the most of the commander. This commander to disrupt the enemy player through the use of partisans, fear propaganda, and the IL-2 loiter. The units in themselves should be unique thus I implemented changes to the units to differentiate one another. AT Partisans should not be able to build the same items as regular partisans as it diminishes its uniqueness of the unit. The ZI-6 Truck provides the army with the ability of a cheap affordable way to maneuver the map. This combined partisans could prove devastating as partisans have an even quicker means of traversing the map to plant mines or barbed wire in raids. Fear propaganda is intended to break large enemy infantry clusters to make way for quick counter attacks. Finally, call in the mighty IL-2 to provide anti-tank & anti-infantry support with their powerful 30mm cannons. No unit would dare enter the red circle of death.

How is this different from the Original Partisan Commander?

• This doesn't have mark target a crucial aspect of the doctrine that helped the general army and AT-Partisans pack a punch.
  
• ZI-6 Truck not featured in original Partisan Commander
  
• Less Recon abilities (Spy Network is featured in this doctrine)
  
• Heavyier emphasis on the partisans as a whole
  
• Heavier emphasis on disruption whereas the old commander had a more supportive role with spy network and mark target
  
  
  • Command Point 0: Partisan Support Package
    
    • Give Soviet HQ access to ZI-6 Truck for 200 manpower & 15 fuel
      
    • cheap truck to load units in. partisan drive-bys
      
    • ZI-6 Truck can reinforce units
      
    • ZI-6 Truck can drop medical supplies for 30 munitions
      
    • Partisan Support Package includes Radio Intercept
      
    
    
  • Command Point 1: Partisan Squad (Anti-Infantry Disruption)
    
    • Cost 210
      
    • Instead of razor wire partisan squads are given barbwire which slows people down without blocking the path. Meant to slow people down. The potential for ambush trap
      
    • Partisans can be upgraded with survival training for 40 munitions
      
    • Gives partisan ambush camo
      
    • gives partisan squad more health and armor
      
    • Gives partisan squad sprint ability
      
    • Vet 1 Increased Accuracy & interrogation tactics
      
    • Vet 2 Increased survivability
      
    • Vet 3 Partisan squad gains 5th model (for late game survivability against infantry)
      
    
    
  • Command Point 2: AT Partisan (Anti-Vehicle Disruption)
    
    • Cost: 270 manpower
      
    • Instead of razor wire, AT Partisans are allowed to build tank traps or barricade to stop vehicles (not infantry)
      
    • Instead of the regular mines, partisan irregulars are given light infantry mines.
      
    • Partisans can be upgraded with survival training for 40 munitions
      
    • Gives partisan ambush camo
      
    • Gives partisan squad more health and armor
      
    • Gives AT partisan squad sprint ability
      
    • Vet 1 Increased Accuracy & vehicle tracking ability
      
    • Vet 2 Increased Survivability
      
    • Vet 3 Partisan squad gains 5th model (for late game survivability against tanks)
      
    
    
  • Command Point 4: Fear Propaganda
    
    • More Disruption in line with the commander concept
      
    • prevents blobing and force retreating units
      
    
    
  • Command Point 8: IL-2 Loiter
    
    • 23mm Cannon Strafing Mission
      
    • AOE Disruption
      
      
    
    
  
  
  Now I was debating whether or not the partisan squad should change. I initially wanted to replace them with Soviet irregulars. Equipped 2 man 2TG & 2 SVT for 250 manpower at 2 command points. It's too strong for a 1cp appearance thus it got pushed back to 2cp in line with other calling units of the same caliber. Reason being is that they are an excellent unit that has gathered dust for quite some time. This in part was an attempt to bring back units that at one point was in the game singleplayer and multiplayer under the old Soviet reserve commander. Same with the partisan survival training in addition to the barbwire & barricade.
  
  
  Any unused unit you would like to see come back?

I was wondering if the new commanders promised would be released in December or has it been delayed for Q1 2019? The image above is from the first blog post referencing the Commander revamp by RE_Andy. That is all and thanks for your time.

http://www.companyofheroes.com/blog/2018/07/03/commander-updates

[b][b]Partisan Commander Rework


• Commander Ability : Radio Intercept (Command Point 0)
  Includes Radio Intercept (Passive Ability)
  
• Commander Ability : Partisan Squad (Command Point 1)
  4 Man Partisan Squad
  
• Commander Ability : Commissar Squads (Commander Point 1)
  Commissar Squad
  
• Commander Ability : Tank Hunter Partisans (Command Point 2)
  4 Man Tank Hunter Partisan Squad
  
• Commander Ability : ZI-6 Transport Truck (Command Point 3)
  Cost : 90 Munitions to Upgrade to Supply Truck
  Can reinforce Units Once Upgraded
  15 Munitions to Drop Medical Supplies
  50 Munitions to drop DP
  30 Munitions to drop PTRS
  

^ Meant to be an early game commander utilizing Commissar to buff the weak partisans to victory. ZI-6 trucks provide ample mobility to encourage hit and run partisan tactics. I was also wondering if Survival training will make a return for partisans. 40 munitions for more health, armor, and ambush camo with interrogation. It seems suited for partisan squads

Another Partisan Rework [Image Down Below]



The Return of Not One Step Back Would Be Nice

I love partisans & thus this is why I created this thread. The partisan command was released on November 12, 2013 and since its release it has gone through many considerable changes during its time in coh2. from mp40 to ppsh, partisans were always fun to play but never really good. In some of their earliest idderation soviet partisans were equipped with rifles such as the svt-40 or the Mosin which for a partisan group with little in terms of accuracy or training ment they were vastly inefficient. Partisans in its earliest stage were equipped with ppsh-41 (non-drum magazine variant) which often meant they spent a good chunk of their time reloading which in turn (if micro managed incorrectly) cause serious manpower bleed (to this day partisans cost 26 manpower to reinforce while conscripts cost 20 manpower to reinforce). AT Partisans in its earlier forms had the possibility of either being equipped with 2 PTRS / 2 Rifles or 1 Panzerschreck /3 rifles which was decided by rng once again lacking consistency.This is not to say there were other idderation of soviet partisans that terrible. The irregulars (not included in partisan commander for some odd reason) costed 190 manpower for a 4 man partisan equipped with 3 mosnins & a mg42 or 4 svt-40s (this was rg based which caused partisans to lack consistency). On top of this partisans had anti-infantry grenades, anti-vehicle grenades, and trip flare (keep in mind that the at grenade required upgrade to have access). This cheap unit was spamable and very good for its 190 manpower price.

How Effective are partisans in 2018?

Admittedly , partisans are not really good even as a fun (non-meta) commander to play. Heck osttruppen doctrine (german equivalent) got a commander rework & not partisans. Today, the same problems that partisans faced back in 2013 still plague it to this day. Partisans are super squishy & lack the heartiness to survive in today's meta & can cause serious manpower bleed as they cost 26 manpower to reinforce were as conscripts cost 20 manpower (and are arguably more versatile than available partisan variants). There is no real incentive despite the vetrancy to keep the partisans alive for long. The Squishiness allows for axis players to chase them down effectively causing a vet 3 partisan to go down to something like a 222 when retreating.How they currently are designed, partisans are essentially a cheap ineffective shock squad. The AT Partisans are alright however because they are partisans means they are super squish when facing the likes of german medium & heavy armor which is not good for they are designed to fight them. If you don't combine mark target or another AT-Partisan to focus a single armor unit chances are its going to walk away alive with a damaged engine while you are having to run away as your partisans were only able to give off a rocket each while suffering losses. Against Axis light armor its not really a problem unless its a Panzer 2 or a Flamer Halftrack with the flamer upgrade which will shred the partisans. Even kubels can drain AT-Partisans effectively before they could close the gap and toss a AT-Grenade or even shoot their panzerschreck. Also partisans (both variants) have no vetrancy 1 bonus which is bad compared to all other units.

How can we buff partisans?

1.) Increased Health & Armor so they dont die to fast

2.)Perhaps equip partisans with Demo Charge to counter OKW HQs or to counter axis fortifications (keeping in line with Disruption Tactics).

3.) Allow for AT Partisans to upgrade to a 2nd Panzerschreck for a 45 munitions upgrade to increase their combat effectiveness in the late game similar to a weaker Panzergrenadier (usually you'll want 2 AT Partisans to counter 1 medium / heavy vehicle in combination with mark target to be effective).

4.) Perhaps give them a 5th model at vetrancy 3 to encourage players to keep them around for longer than 5min

5.) Allow for ventracy 1 bonus to be out of combat healing to allow for increased time behind enemy lines or to be self sufficient as Partisans are an early game commitment which can leave you without the medic upgrade due to manpower bleed

6.) Allow partisans at battle phase 4 to have the ability to upgrade to have 1 mg42 similar to osttruppen upgrade

7.) Lower partisan renforce cost to 20 similar to that of a conscript (unless you give them buffs (health, armor, weapons, and etc) which would make them more feasible of a unit to play more often)

8.) give ambush camouflage attack bonus which would allow for more ambush plays (currently they have only camouflage and no attack bonus when they attack first out of camouflage

9.) Add MP44 Partisans os that they would be an effective Mid-Range unit compared to PPSH Partisans

10.) increased Late Game Versatility

It's been 5 years relic please give this commander some love ❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎


Partisan Veterancy Stats

Partisans - SMG
Veterancy 2
-40% Recharge on Molotov
+20% Armor
-25% Cooldown
Veterancy 3
+40% Accuracy
+25% Range on Molotov

Partisans - LMG
Veterancy 2
-40% Recharge on Molotov
+40% Accuracy
Veterancy 3
+30% Armor
+20% Accuracy
+25% Range on Molotov

Partisans - Rifle
Veterancy 2
-40% Recharge on Molotov
+40% Accuracy
Veterancy 3
+30% Armor
+20% Accuracy
+25% Range on Molotov

Irregulars
Veterancy 2
-40% Recharge on RG-33 Grenade
+40% Accuracy
Veterancy 3
+30% Armor
+20% Accuracy
+25% Range on RG-33 Grenade

Partisan AT - Panzershrek
Veterancy 2
+20% Armor
+10% Penetration
+30% Accuracy
Veterancy 3
+10% Accuracy
+30% Armor
-20% Reload

Partisan AT - PTRS
Veterancy 2
+20% Armor
+10% Penetration
+30% Accuracy
Veterancy 3
+10% Accuracy
+30% Armor
-25% Cooldown

Bumping so more people can see. These are nice commanders that could benefit from the new meta.