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Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI8 Nov 2017, 10:33 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2017, 09:30 AMscratchedpaintjob That sounds reasonable, but keep in mind that even a gtx1080ti can still struggle in 4k, which is why most professional gamers rather use the aforementioned 1080p high Hz designs. make sure to post your configuration before buying it, to avoid mistakes. which store are you planning to buy from? oh, and fuck matlab, i`m currently using it for my master thesis and oh boy, i`m quite a bit fed up ^^ I think I will be buying from a local store here in the Netherlands: https://www.computerstore.nl/category/211478/computer-onderdelen.html Will try to build my own system according to the following configuration: https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Virtual-Reality-155/Buy_182 but with a higher wattage PSU (750 watt), an extra 4 TB hdd and maybe a good high frequency 1080p gaming monitor from asus. As the 8700K processor is currently in short supply (and expensive), maybe use the 7700K. In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI5 Nov 2017, 21:49 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 17:45 PMArray Probably best to ignore saucisson masque - I've read many of his posts and concluded he was probably bullied at school. No-one NEEDS this stuff but we're not called PC master race for nothing. At low fps (like 20-30) I find scrolling causes stuttering in this any many games. On the monitor front good advice is to sink your cash into a great PC and then save up for a monitor in the future with 4k hdr and gsync/freesync when prices have dropped a bit (because the premium monitors are now 8k 500hz or something) Yes, I will first build a good PC and keep my old 24 inch FHD (1080p) monitor. I can decide after that if and what type of monitor I need. I'll also be using the new PC for CFD (computational fluid dynamics) and CRD simulations and Matlab programming. I think in the end a big 4K monitor will probably be beneficial for work and nice to have for games. In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI4 Nov 2017, 23:41 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2017, 21:58 PMle_saucisson_masque you should also consider geting these kind of monitor : https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG258Q/ 240 fps is what makes the difference between a good player and an average one, especially on a game like coh2 seriously, don't listen to these folks and save your money. i would be very suprised that you can't run coh2 at least at 30 fps with your computer, which is more than enough for an rts. (using your brain is much more valuable than geting more fps but on the other hand it's easier to spend money on a better graphic card) If I understand correctly this is a 240 Hz monitor. Do you also need to achieve 240 fps at minimum to benefit from the high frequency? In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI4 Nov 2017, 23:38 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2017, 19:20 PMArray Yep - don't be afraid of building your own system - its a doddle. PSU is really easy to connect - all plugs are different so you cant mess up. Having said that you can get bundles where the motherboard, RAM and processor are already set-up and you just put the motherboard in the case connect the GPu and drives and connect the PSU. Specialist companies like overclockers (uk) do pre-overclocked bundles where they have set-up (and guaranteed) the optimum settings and overclock. This can give great value for money. I have one from 2011(?) still going strong - Ive just upgraded GPU and SSD drives (and added more RAM) over time. Technically my CPU doesn't meet minimum specs for some newer games but I run most of them upto the fps that the GPU can handle due to the overclock. COH does like to eat RAM (and probably has a memory leak). Honestly you shouldnt really get less that 12-16GB these days and definitely not less than 8. Beside COH and COH2 gaming, I will also using the computer for a lot of other memory intensive tasks (CFD and CRD) , maybe best to start with 2x 8 GB of memory and a possibility to upgrade to 4x 8GB if needed. In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI4 Nov 2017, 13:26 PM thx for all the tips & advice ! In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI3 Nov 2017, 11:18 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2017, 09:52 AMAntemurale How I did not know that! It's okay if you don't have previous experience, you can watch Youtube (just ask Swiftsaber or HelpingHans) to learn how to build a PC. That build looks pretty sweet! However, I will make one suggestion, which is to get a higher wattage PSU. While the 550W PSU will power your system, it is best for your rig to be loaded at round 50%, where it would be most efficient. This is why I suggested a 750W PSU, and a Titanum-rated one at that. Don't skimp out on your PSU, especially since you're buying really expensive components! Also, as Pasilone pointed out, CoH2 is rather poorly optimized, thus it will have pretty abysmal framerates. Yes, good tip, thx! I understand that these new GPU's can/will ask a lot of power (~290W for 1080 ti, just looked it up :-)). If you start to spend $$ it's best not only to focus on CPU/GPU, but also pay attention to the other components. I'm already watching some youtube video's for building your own PC, certainly doesn't look to complicated :-). Most difficult seems to me all the different cables from the PSU to the motherboard. I can start by building the system and connect to my old 24 monitor and decide if/what type of new monitor to purchase. Is it correct to assume that the frequency of your monitor (~ 60 Hz standard?) also gives an indication for the maximum framerate which is beneficial ? What I mean is, has a framerate of, let's say, 120 fps on a 60 Hz monitor added value? I ask because I see gaming monitors with higher refresh rates? Thx for your help/advice wkr, Michel In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI3 Nov 2017, 09:50 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2017, 09:28 AMBasilone I doubt it will handle 4k well, but its because of the game not your system. My GTX1080 gets ~120fps on most AAA games and around 90fps on the highest demanding of games (like GR Wildlands) @1080p, but in COH2 I've seen it drop to 45fps late game in 2v2. If you downscale res you should be fine, 4k might work if you're willing to run something like medium graphics settings. Even though top down RTS games should be playable at lower fps than first person games, the problem is panning the camera gets really messy in COH2 once it gets to the 40-50fps range. Back in the day I played COH1 on a laptop with 25-30fps, but the camera movement felt more responsive even at lower framerates. Hi Basilone, Thx for the info. So, basically COH2 is not optimised to run at high fps? What I understand from reading several COH2 performance links/articles, is that a CPU with high mHz (so 4 core with high mHz will outperform 8 core with slightly lower mHz, because COH2 doesn't use all threads/cores?) and/or GPU with high vram (6 or 8 gb) will give the best performance. If my main focus will be COH2, maybe for the moment I am better off with sticking to FHD (1920x1080) with my old 24 inch monitor? Is it known what gaming rigs the professional COH2 players use ? wkr, Michel In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI3 Nov 2017, 08:39 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2017, 08:06 AMAntemurale Hi there! First off, welcome to coh2.org! I actually wonder if CoH2 supports a native 4k resolution setting. Either way, I would say that mid-end graphics cards are not very well suited for 4k gaming. Here is a review covering the RX580 and RX470 (go ahead and jump to the 4k Benchmarks part). If I were you, I would scale the game down to 1080p. Another option I'd like to share with you is building your own system. For approximately the same price (a little over 2000 USD) you could get a computer with an i7-7700k, 16GB of DDR4-2400 RAM, a GTX 1080, an extra 480GB SSD to serve as your boot/game drive, and buy a separate 4K monitor. Just my two cents, good luck with your purchases and gaming! Hi AtomicRockets, Thx for the welcome message and the quick reply. Based on the following link/screenshot : https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/company-of-heroes-2-updated-and-performs-better-the-western-front-armies-expansion-released.6568 it looks like COH2 does indeed support (native?) 4K. I think your suggestion to build something is a very good one. I will look into that option, although I have no experience in building systems myself. Based on my budget and to be 'future proofed' I can maybe try to build something like this : https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Virtual-Reality-155/Buy_182 but with a nVidia gtx 1080 8 GB and a 27 inch 4k monitor like https://www.monitorstore.nl/product/757708/category-241689/lg-27ud58p.html Alas the prices here in the Netherlands/Europe seems to be quite a bit higher compared to the US. wkr, Michel In: Hardware and Tech
Thread: Is this computer ok to play COH2? -- Dell XPS 27 AOI3 Nov 2017, 07:25 AM Hi all, I was thinking of buying a Dell 27 inch All In One computer : http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-desktop-computers/xps-27-all-in-one/spd/xps-27-7760-aio The system has a 4K screen, an i7-7700 processor, 16 GB memory and a RX 570 graphics card with 8GB of vram. Although the processor and memory look ok to me, I have some doubts of the RX 570 in combination with the 4K screen. Would this work or do I have to scale down in game to full HD (1920x1080)? Would it still look ok on a 4K screen? wkr, Michel In: Hardware and Tech