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Thread: UKF Emplacement Rework3 Jul 2018, 10:15 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2018, 09:24 AMKatitof Psst, unless the team games you talk about are specifically 2v2, there is no balance what so ever, just a massive random unit clusterfuck. Psst #2, dual ost mortar is a hardcounter for mortar pit, your "wipes them often" is not true for more then a year now. Psst #3, 2 indirect fire units in team games are nothing hard to get and bleed they inflict more then makes up for frontal force weaker by SINGLE squad. Psst #4, you know what is the difference between AA HT and bofors? I'll enlighten you: AA HT will be in any place of the map you'll want it to be, bofors will be sitting there, waiting to be barraged to death, because if you approached it knowing its there, bad player would be too generous to describe you, if you lost more then 2 models to it in the game, or a full squad if you're exceptionally terrible, then you're just that, exceptionally terrible. Ah! The troll strikes again! The troll who never had more than 20 games with brits. the troll who say "if you lost more then 2 models to it in the game, or a full squad if you're exceptionally terrible, then you're just that, exceptionally terrible" ....which include the best player from coh2, right? they lose more than 2 model and some game even whole sqauds. You must be the god from coh2! we pray to you! thank you that you inlight us all! god bless me pls! aa HT is really easy to lose becasue of squishy (see the last and actualls torunements! yes...we know they are noobs, right? ) bofors dont must move anyway..you place it there where it is usefull for you and now the enemy need more than 2 mortar....because you will lose them fast In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: UKF Emplacement Rework3 Jul 2018, 07:34 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2018, 12:58 PMHighfiveeeee It simply is an area denial tool like MG Bunkers. You pay fuel but get a 360° arc. Right now you are trying to make the Bofors a no-brainer which counters everything but the heaviest tanks, which is not the case. A single mortar or even better leIG and the Bofors can't do shit because it cannot runaway. You need Sappers to repair it constantly (making them bleed like hell because of repairing damage penalties) unless you play fortification doctrine, which is shit. It wipes fast but 1-2 seconds is an overstatement. Unless you put a squad inside, it won't pin anything. Nobody uses the barrage anymore after the FRP nerf because Brit units are expensive as fuck and you won't waste 280MP only for some light barrage things that is mostly used to tear down houses. It doesn't. It literally does NOT harm planes. This is a bug, but still. Compared to what? OKW - Build 2 leIGs and the Bofors melts like butter. You don't lose any fuel while the enemy spent 30 for literally nothing and also is not able to get an AEC anymore. Ostheer: Build a mortar and a flame 251. Smoke + attack ground -> Bofors gone, 251 Vet 2. ALSO, that 45(?) fuel for a single Bofors means a 3-4 minute longer time until a Cromwell arrives. AND you also lack the MP to build an AT Gun, which means that an incoming Panzer 4 will tear you apart. Indirect fire as in mortar pit which was nerfed into the ground? Also, about 900MP + 30 Fuel only to defend a small area of the map is a huge investment. That can be negated by Mortars/leIGs easily. And also the enemy has a way better army if you put all your MP into this immobile trash. idk against which noobs do you fight...but my enemys and me use ground attack ..even through smoke..isnt a big thing, everybody knows that. yes it wipes 4model squads in nearly 2 sec. Count it. you play like a enemy would sit back and look how do you mortar his bofors. did you even play teamgames? when you start mortar brits emplacments you will get much counterbarrages and attacks with other units to it. noone let easy peeasy destroy his bofors. ..and you get much time to defend it....really much time with brace. mortar emplacments wipes often ost mortars with the first hits. no big deal and you wasted manpower to get no rewards. and lolo...build pls as okw 2 ISG...and you are fu cked in teamgames because no map presense. and damned...this isg make so less dmg vs bofors...its awefull to see that even 2 of them needs minutes reminder: bofors is a 30(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) fuel unit....not a 80 or 100 fuell unit which could stand some time again a attack. 30 fuel! you cant get even an AA ht as okw for this low price! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: UKF Emplacement Rework2 Jul 2018, 09:25 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2018, 08:28 AMKatitof A tech exclusive unit that costs fuel, prevents you from getting good light vehicle and costs pop cap is better then a complete freebie on tech? Who would have ever effin thought! the tech is technicaly cheap and is only one-time buy. after that you can build this super cheap unit all where you want and can now hold the area easily. when i say super cheap...yeah..i mean super duber cheap compared to its performanche. where can i get a 30 fuel unit wich wipe squad often in 1-2 sec is a light tank destroyer and can barrage/ pin unit wide away, has AA abilty, has brace, stand longer than a schwerer building from OKW and where the enemy need min a mid game army to destroy it when you arent a noob? mix it with aindirect fire unit and a AT gun or a td...any viola-.--your enemy need a endgame army or must spam arty EDIT: to bad that we get NO statistic to this emplacment units! else we would see HOW EFFECTIV this unit is. it would have in most games the highest effency ! look what it cost and what it bring into your (team)game. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: UKF Emplacement Rework2 Jul 2018, 06:22 AM bofors is BS. it is mucgh stronger than a schwerer from OKW and can carrage, high wiping potencial and put a AT gun and indirect fire unit behind it and you can lean back and need no micro while the enemy need a army to destroy it In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: adjustment for puma28 Jun 2018, 12:10 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2018, 10:54 AMKatitof Any particular reason you are trying to compare a ~T2 light vehicle to a T4 tank destroyer? OP was starting this comparing. And puma is a t3 unit when iam play as OKW. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: adjustment for puma28 Jun 2018, 09:57 AM Jump back to quoted post28 Jun 2018, 09:24 AMcheese tonkatsu comback after finshing.reading. once more? which information i missed? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: adjustment for puma28 Jun 2018, 09:22 AM Puma has not that armor, HP, penetration,accuracy, turrent speed and other things like the jackson. It has nothing ...except a self spoting range. wow. Take it and you will let it go down the trash--- In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Counters to double Churchill(basic) as Okw?20 Jun 2018, 06:44 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2018, 06:34 AMTheGentlemenTroll The OP is talking about 2 churchills, no where is it mentioned that a FF is in the mix. If the opponent is able to get that much fuel then you should have proper counters for that considering how much fuel is needed just to get those units. Therefore by that time you should have panthers/jp4s/rakens which can deal with the churchills. Similarly mines or snares make the Churchills sitting ducks for AT. and here comes the problems: rakten are shit and never prepared for tanks like church. they will die mostly with the first hit from them...you can look the posted vid here from luv. his rakten do shit vs churchs and dies mostly figt... example? Here u go: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/273912846?t=07h07m05s In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Counters to double Churchill(basic) as Okw?20 Jun 2018, 05:53 AM is funny how all upset about my criticism. but instead of refuting them they talk garbage and do not bring a counter-argument. only player card blaming. Something like that only make people who have no arguments. just like grammar trolls. either: refute my criticism ... with factual arguments ... or you are just trolls. Tipp: i have some replays where i won vs top 60 player. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Counters to double Churchill(basic) as Okw?19 Jun 2018, 14:23 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Jun 2018, 13:38 PMelchino7 GCS: Luvnest vs Talisman. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/273912846 Around 6:20:00 Luvnest lost the moment he chose UKF. Joke. Although not so much. I think he went with Churchills, against the worst type of opponent (patient player) for that unit. Double Churchill was one of the reasons i think Luvnest ended up losing that game. I invite you to first look at that game and think why this is the case. Spoiler. You can't have everything, because popcap is an issue. Repair times are an issue. Luvnest armies: 2 IS (healing), 1 commando, 1 atgun, 1 mg, 2 engineers (1 heavy). 2x Churchill, 1 FF. Talismans armies: 5 Volks (Stg), 1 rak, 1 mg, 1 SP. 1 Command PV, 1 PIV and a Stuka. You have an issue by been blinded by the 2 trees, instead of looking at the forest. If he has, AT IS, then he can't have any other thing. Either he lacks control which is given with supports weapons, he lacks indirect fire to properly soften your position and push, he doesn't have chase potential. He can't deal with your infantry squads. He can't repair his tanks in a decent time. he failed at some points: - useless callin for high muni price..nothing rewards > he should insteat use more tulips rockets...there was some moments panther would be easily dead if he would use it....but no - he didnt managed ut to make a push with double churchs and firefly...everytime he split - he picked the false commander...it was clearly one of the BIGGEST fails i see - he didnt build caches...wtf..such a long game...big fail - he could have 3 sappers...but no...he was long time with 82-92 pocap...he could have one more! - he didnt managed to get on the other side from the field --OKW can defend all the time all units at one points...fail -> conclusion: there was WAY to much fail decisions...to could win In: COH2 Balance