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Thread: Soviet General Faction Changes - New cmdr mod 5.024 Apr 2019, 19:21 PM I'm not keen on the Osttruppen-style cover buff. I think it's complicating things unnecessarily. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet General Faction Changes - New cmdr mod 5.024 Apr 2019, 18:55 PM If Conscripts need another buff on top of the extra man, how about this? Change the target size of the Conscript model from 1.09 to 1. Firstly, it's a modest combat buff at all stages of the game. It also means merging Conscripts into Penals or Combat Engineers doesn't nerf those squads. Conscripts become a very practical onfield reinforcement tool. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Poll regarding new 1v1 maps. 24 Apr 2019, 12:37 PM Deutz could do with a few non-urgent bugfixes to stop AT guns firing into the base. I say non-urgent because it's not an optimal strategy: it did just fine in several SMC tournaments. It's an urban map though, so it's going to be unpopular. Lagoda's solid. Nexus I'd like to see decluttered: there are so many objects that the map's hard to read. On most maps, you take one look at the screen and know where the cover is: on Nexus you've got to mouse around for it. Ideally, Nexus also needs the limited lines of fire on its houses enforced in a non-destructible manner. It's UKF heaven at the moment, and not in a good way. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Sniper Cover Concept24 Apr 2019, 12:31 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 07:48 AMJae For Jett But snipers don't kill by inflicting damage, they kill by inflicting a kill critical on an infantry hit, don't they? I'm not sure how trivial it would be to remove the kill crit then give the sniper rifle damage, but at the very least, it would be more complex than solely adjusting the cover multipliers. You could make the snipe crit work like a vehicle kill crit, perhaps? It goes off when the sniper rifle kills a model. That makes it solely aesthetic, setting off the Unit Sniped notification. Then you give the sniper rifle 160 damage, 0.25 damage modifier vs heavy cover and 0.25 damage modifier vs vehicles. That'll inflict a kill on a 80 or 82 HP model regardless of command aura, and 40 damage on a unit in heavy cover or a vehicle. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Cover Concept24 Apr 2019, 00:06 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 00:01 AMRoastinGhost Maybe cover only works against snipers if the unit isn't moving? That way it doesn't matter if you a-move through a crater By the time the battlefield is made of craters, you've got the rocket artillery that made them to use on blobs. You could potentially scrap the light cover accuracy penalty and just have the heavy cover damage reduction, but 240 is might be too cheap in that case. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Retreat23 Apr 2019, 23:55 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2019, 23:45 PMRoastinGhost That's a great idea for snipers! A couple issues, though- -The extreme RNG in light cover. What if the half accuracy were swapped for half damage? The "unit sniped" message would only appear on kills, also. -Introducing a miss chance to snipers would be complicated since they rely on high accuracy to cancel out any recieved accuracy their target has. So, maybe the change can't be as elegant as you suggested, but that's a very interesting direction to take the unit. I've forked this off into its own thread. https://www.coh2.org/topic/89693/sniper-cover-concept Snipers used to have miss chances versus garrisons, and Aimed Shot has a 50% chance to miss retreating troops, so there are probably mechanisms to achieve it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Cover Concept23 Apr 2019, 22:55 PM I had this idea in another thread and I'm forking it off into it's own because it was a little off-topic there. What do you do when you're being shot at by a sniper? You get behind something. Snipers in this game don't work like that: they ignore cover. But what if they didn't? If snipers followed the usual cover rules, they'd miss half their shots against units in cover. Units in heavy cover would also take half damage, meaning a single shot from a sniper wouldn't kill them. Say we apply that. That makes snipers weaker, so we balance that out by cutting their manpower cost to 240 MP. What are the consequences of this? Snipers become reverse mortars. This makes the sniper very strong against exposed units, and less effective against units in cover. Mortars flush you out of cover with long range AoE attacks. Snipers become the opposite: they force you into cover to mitigate their damage output. It also creates nice synergy with other units: anything that gets enemy troops out of cover has strong synergy with these snipers. Snipers become cheaper. The sniper's no longer a strategy unto itself: you can afford to build one as a spotter if you want. This mitigates the extreme risk-reward dynamic that makes sniper gameplay so frustrating for all involved: if you lose your sniper it's no big deal. Furthermore, as you can counterposition snipers by sticking to cover, it's not "wipe the sniper or die" for the opponent. Snipers become very effective against exposed units. You know what doesn't use cover? Blobs. Against a blobber, this 240 MP sniper is just as effective as the 360 MP sniper. They're also stronger against team weapons (what they're ostensibly for), which tend to set up in the open. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Moving Accuracy Penalty for Garrisoned Squads23 Apr 2019, 22:48 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2019, 20:46 PMT.R. Stormjäger So the problem is basically the usf, not garrisoned squads. The WC51 Cav Rifle combo is the main troublemaker, but it's not the only way to make a wipe machine. It's just the most accesssible. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Soviet General Faction Changes - New cmdr mod 5.023 Apr 2019, 18:16 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2019, 17:14 PMT.R. Stormjäger Regardless of what happens in Te/T4, there needs to be a buff to the stock unit. Opening with cons in any capacity is basically self sabotage. Is it? They're cheap, they build fast, they beat Grens at short range and they've got stock Sprint against HMGs. A lot of the top players build them against Ost even if they go T1. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Retreat23 Apr 2019, 18:08 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2019, 17:45 PMElSlayer I probably didn't expressed my thought well. The question I wanted to raise is why reduce models in sniper squad (which is basically "removing MP bleed") and then ask for increase model count in other squad with completely opposite reasoning? I don't follow. Which squad am I asking for more models in? Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2019, 17:27 PMT.R. Stormjäger I really like this idea. However, one thing that needs to be taken into account is the micro tax. The player using the sniper has to invest a lot of energy into this one unit, which can make his responses around the battlefield much slower. Ideally, you'd rework the unit entirely into something with a much lower risk and a much lower reward. One radical thing you could do is make them subject to cover rules. 50% chance to miss versus cover, 50% damage reduction vs models in heavy cover. Then slash their cost from 360 MP to only 240. Makes sense, right? What do you do when attacked by a sniper? Get behind something. That effectively turns the sniper into an anti-mortar. It retains full effectiveness versus uncovered units. This makes it strong against support weapons (what it's ostensibly for) and very strong against blobs. For the player with the sniper, it's a 240 MP unit. A wipe hurts, but it's not the catastrophic kick in the economy losing a 360 MP sniper is. For the player without the sniper, rushing an LV to wipe it is no longer the only option. You've now got another strategy. Just take cover. It also adds some depth to countersniping: it's only a guaranteed kill against an A-moved sniper who's out in the open. The more I think about this idea, the more I like it. It might turn snipers into a fun support unit rather than a strategy unto itself. In: COH2 Balance