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Thread: Why Ostheer is currently not much fun in my opinion9 May 2016, 23:11 PM Jump back to quoted post9 May 2016, 22:15 PMiceman Yes, I've been play since game release. You might as well just ask Relic when CoH3 is coming out, cause its just random issues every time a new patch comes out for CoH2. As of Current, the Brit mortars just shred Ostheer. Also, the Tiger tank is just a worthless by the time it comes out. I remember when the tiger was a feared tank, but now its just pansie tank. same goes for panthers.. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Bofors7 May 2016, 23:50 PM You still have piats as early anti tank gun. Yet I agree its less powerfull than a real at gun, but the bofor in its current state is clearly a game breaker for its cost effecient and health ratio... in early-mid game In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Bofors3 May 2016, 15:29 PM Jump back to quoted post3 May 2016, 15:22 PMTickTack Just to be clear, the UK player would have to use attack ground in response to the AT guns' attack ground. This still seems pretty balanced to me, especially when you park a halftrack or medical building behind the AT gun. Sure, almost 600 MP to balance 280, seems pretty fair to me In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Bofors3 May 2016, 08:39 AM Jump back to quoted post3 May 2016, 05:34 AMDjDrowsyBear I can expand on that idea as well. Increase the cost of the Bofors from 280-mp/30-fuel/10-pop to 320/60/12 and decrease the range of its suppressive barrage ability from 60 to 50. The Bofors will still be extremely strong at locking down a point against infantry and vehicles but the cost increase will force the UKF player to seriously consider what route he wants to go. If he buys the Bofors then he will seriously slow down his Cromwell. If this is seen as too drastic of a nerf (which I don't believe it is) then a potential alternative is to up the cost of the initial side tech and lower the cost increase of the Bofors. The change in its suppressive barrage range is just to prevent it from countering indirect fire (something it wasn't meant to do). In addition to that change: Increase the population cost of the mortar pit from 8 to 12. Decrease the population cost of the 17-pounder from 20 to 14. The result of all of that together would still allow for sim cities to be a completely viable strategy (considering how powerful all of those emplacements are) but not nearly as cheap and easy to pull off. If the UKF player decides to go with the sim city route then it will heavily punish his mid-game (slower Cromwells) and even his extreme late game to an extent (due to population increases). In total, I think it would allow for a much less frustrating experience for Axis players and a greater strategic diversity from UKF players. 320/60/12 is still pretty low compared to a double ost mortar or tanks. It should be more increased to at least 420/40/12. Why? Because it can kill medium tanks, insta kill infantry, big range and ultra resistant. It requires a lot of micro to kill it. Because lets face it, if you start tickling it, you will see mortars or blobs incoming 5 secs later. Emplacements are rarely left undefended..., add to that their mortar range and in 2v2 you lock the 2/3rd of the map, and send your troops attack the last third. I don't have such an issue about the actual power of bofor, more their resistance. When braced, which is free, they take almost no damage from everything. Even a tank is not that hard to kill. This is particularly annoying when using sector artillery or when you have spared enough ressource for one rocketenwerfer. You will use your resources for nothing if he braces it at the right time. Then wait 90sec to reload and do it again Emplacements should either cost way more or and be more vulnerable. Brace should reduce the damage to only 50%. MHT might be a good counter, but should I choose my commander because of only one or two units he has on the field ? Yet, don't forget the counter barrage ability, able to destroy any indirect fire unit on the field on small maps, meaning 1v1 2v2. This makes your mortar free target practice for the brit. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Switching from vcoh to coh226 Apr 2016, 22:20 PM Thanks all for the replies, I will try to attach a replay soon I am still trying to better how the different units and abilities works, perhaps you may help me again All the plane support arty circling around a zone, do I need to spot the enemy or can the plane attack on its own in the fog of war once activated ? In the case I retreat when the heavy infantries or tanks are comming In: Ostheer Strategies
Thread: Switching from vcoh to coh226 Apr 2016, 13:57 PM Hi guys I played a lot the vcoh and managed to get a level between 12 and 16 in 2v2 back in the good old days. However I am quite lost when switching to this new version The ostheer takes a lot from the old wehrmacht, yet the force balance is very different. First off, is there any kind of scoot units able to see further away as the other unit while still being able to not entire into the fire zone of other enemy units ? I miss my recon car a lot When dealing against USF or UK, I struggle against their unstoppable vet units. While I managed to get 2/3rd of the map in early game, middle and late game is a total nightmare for me, and unit preservation impossible for me. Mg backed by greens don't cut it, sniper or double snipers aren't enough to bleed lots of manpower, besides units are also generally bigger, looks more like a small water bucket taken from the ocean. I would have thought some scoot cars, ostwind or p4 would at least stop and bleed them. Yet they are quite under-powered in comparison to vcoh. Kitting doesn't work well against blob, and when firing they don't suppress or stun them, their vision range is close to the fire range of the enemy units. The vcoh ostwind had a small explosion effect to stun or disperse a bit the enemy greens. The broombar is also a big joke, expensive and ineffective. Back in vcoh we had also elite infantry unit, the Knight cross, but in coh2 I don't see anything similar. How do you fight then against vetted green ? Cause Volks, Panzergrenadiers are turning into simple sitting ducks Is there no way to camouflage pack units ? About UK emplacements, I don't have to much problem handling them, but I am amazed how resistant they are. I mean it requires more firepower than a single heavy tank (except flames) to take down. Back in the days a double greens equipped with panzerschreks would have taken them down in seconds.... Regarding the Arty units against mass blobs or emplacements. I have the feeling that ost don't have any strong one outside specialized doc. The damage done by double racketenwerfer won't cut it. SO is there anything I am missing ? Do you guys have any tips for me please ? Otherwise I am gonna have to change to a different faction I was used to get hard early game, struggling in mid and winning late game. The goal was to spend your ressource and teching into expensive but efficient units. Here with Ost it's the complete opposite. I am sure that I missed something In: Ostheer Strategies