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Jump back to quoted post24 May 2018, 19:56 PMGI John 412

That’s fair enough. I’m not saying it was wrong or that it doesn’t work, I was just saying what I would’ve done. Lol

Conscripts are supposed to be a sort of multi role hack of all trades infantry unit compared to the Wehrmacht’s more specialized grenadiers (long range combat) and Panzer Grenadiers (mid to short range combat). Conscripts are supposed to beat grens at short range but lose at long range, while the opposite is true for PGrens. They win as long as you play to the enemy’s weakness. The PPSh upgrade allows them to beat everything up close, even dedicated short range units like PGrens when it gives them three SMGs. I like them having two because it keeps their role unchanged as a “counter range” unit but still boosts performance at flanking and clearing team weapons.

In short, three SMGs at any price changes the role to assault CQB type that is potentially spammanle and overlaps with Shock Troops, while two SMGs keeps them in their role as a generalist unit but boosts performance up as a flanking unit.

Both styles of balancing the weapon upgrade can be balanced, but I think having them come cheaperand as only a pairbworks better thematically and with less overlap.

Jump back to quoted post24 May 2018, 13:38 PMsiddolio

Whats so good about ppsh cons vs shocks is that all your conscripts beat lmg grens in 1:1 side engagements, averse to when you just have a single shock and your opponent can blob up grens and focus down individual squads. With their Vet3 RA bonuses cons can walk upto a squad and even if they lose 3 models on the approach they force a retreat usually which is kind of OP when you have 4+ squads with that capability. Shocks really arent that much better than a ppsh con because they both kind of lose and win all of the same engagements and shocks you can typically only get one, it locks you out of guards or radio intercept which are the 2 best things soviets get from a commander and costs 390mp which is archaic after all the cost changes to elite squads over the last 5 or 6 patches.

Merging into shocks is great but u r better off just having ppsh cons and merging into guards

Only shining light for Shocks is that at vet 1 their smoke grenade is amazing (15s cooldown?) because Soviets typically have trouble using smoke with turnrate and fire times on their mortar teams being really bad

Jump back to quoted post15 May 2018, 08:52 AMYukiko

*Coughs* You forgot the edit that came after his, and then the final edit by Major and I where we sat on Skype for four hours. *Coughs*