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3) CP1 Assault Grenadiers.

I kind of agree with this. I can see how Relic thought they could balance those guys with making them useless vs. infantry in buildings and having no AT capabilities. Problems follow in team games and open maps though.

Just imagine the butthurt crying from all the German fanboys if they made Shocktroopers available from the start.

As someone said, it would be extremely useful if you could merge with your team mates units, especially if the merge ability never took away the last man in the squad from you. It would really help if you could give away the few extra men you have left in a wounded Conscript squad before you retreat to help man the support weapons for example.

It's obvious that the community desires more team games. Just look at TFNs and the Propagandacasts shoutcasts as an example, their 2vs2 games always have plenty more views than their regular 1vs1 casts. Why? I think people prefer the aspect of teamwork rather than who's having the highest micro (although it's generally not what's deciding a 1vs1 but anyway). I also think that our future 1vs1 pros will start out with team games since I guess most of us heard about this game from friends who wanted you to come and play WITH them.

It's funny that no one have said that the factions are pretty balanced in team games in this thread.

Is the Soviets underpowered in team games or is the OH just easier to play with? I've played SU for a while because that's the faction we started out trying to play with in our clan but we have moved on to OH since they just felt easier to handle and the results followed. If you managed to survive until late game it's still not much you can do against the OH doomstack of heavy armor despite the larger quantity you have of inferior tanks unless your enemies are really stupid. In my experience 2vs2 is fairly balanced but anything from 3vs3 and up is just a nightmare as an SU player. It's also not uncommon to see +75% searching games as Germans, even on a Saturday evening:



From what I understand the game is largely balanced to please 1vs1 players but doesn't Relic give any attention to the large amount of players who play this for fun WITH (not against) their friends in team games and have no ambitions in becoming the new Inverse?

What can be done to make Soviets more appealing for the large player base that prefer team games?

I agree with the two previous posters.

Balancing the LMG with a doctrinal ability just seems... No? An option would be to make the PPSH a global upgrade. It seems that Relic became Schizofrenic looking at the LMG from CoH1 and made it the other way around = a bit better than it should be.

Nerfing the LMG without doing anything with the (IMO) OP G43s would favour those doctrines instead. Maybe a slight decrease in long range accuracy allowing Conscripts to at least stall them? I'm not sure about this.

A different approach would perhaps be a redesign of the S-Minefield to redirect some OH muni spending? Now you need 80 munitions to even start building it but each square (out of four) only costs you 20 munitions and if you cancel the build it will only charge you for the squares that you put down. If Germans were able to lay down S-Mine squares instead of fields the Ostheer player would have something else to spend his munition on rather than just rifle nades/fausts and LMGs/flamers. Maybe decreasing the cost and a slight nerf to the Teller mine would make it more common as well but I'm not as sure on this one.

What do you think?

1. Soviet bunkers: Would it render balance issues if the Red Army were capable of digging down? I can't see a reason why Soviets shouldn't be allowed to build them. Even Stephennn said in his stream that he doesn't understand why. I also think this would make Soviets more appealing for beginners since we all built sandbags and bunkers back in our first games in CoH1 and holding out for tanks. Right now it's not uncommon to see +80% searching games as OH in 2vs2 and up.

2. German mines: Why can't OH have "normal" mines like the Soviets? I personally think that the S-Minefield is the Devils creation and not for those who step on it. The Teller mine is awesome and extremely useful but it's not for free and OH got so many other things costing munition. The Riegel mine is also splendid but you rarely see a halftrack survive to late game when you have other priorities on what vehicles you need and what to spend your munition on.

3. Retreat: Why does it take so long before my units actually start running when I hit the retreat button? From what I recall from CoH1 my units started running fairly quickly. Now they rather stand up and salute the enemy a few seconds before they actually turn the other way and head back home. This is what it looks like when one of my units drop the fight: