Profile of MajorBloodnok

Nice to see this guide finally emerge from the chrysalis

Considering that the British had numbers on their side but still ran from the battle, and from Wittmann makes me believe that it would've been a high possibility. The British or more specifically men and women from the British isles aren't known for their fighting ability;

You realise that this makes you a stand-out supremacist? ...or maybe you do not? (((sighs)))

...it's why they relied on foreigners(Canadians, Australians, Indians, New Zealanders and etc) to to win wars and keep their empire alive

Let me gently disabuse you of a few mistated facts: in the Northwest Europe campaign against the Axis from June 1944 onwards, the army on the Allied side included USA, Canadian, British, Free Poles, Free French (including colonial troops) Dutch and Free Belgians. AFAIK, the ground forces did not include Australians, Indians, New Zealanders. The allied airforce in NW Europe, OTOH, included Americans,Canadians, British, Australians,New Zealanders, Caribbeans, South Africans, Rhodesians, Free Poles, Czechs, Dutch, Norwegians, Belgians etc

The British infantry/tankers who fought against Wittmann were from the UK, so it would explain why they routed so easily despite having more tanks, men and AT guns. Wittmann simply put was a playmaker; he either lost very badly or achieved resounding success in the battlefield.

From Wiki ( to be read with caution):

Under the command of Brigadier William "Loony" Hinde, the 22nd Armoured Brigade group reached Villers-Bocage without serious incident in the morning of 13 June. The leading elements advanced eastwards from the town on the Caen road to Point 213, where they were ambushed by Tiger I tanks of the 101st SS Heavy Panzer Battalion. In fewer than 15 minutes numerous tanks, anti-tank guns and transport vehicles were destroyed, many by SS-Obersturmführer Michael Wittmann. The Germans then attacked the town and were repulsed, losing several Tigers and Panzer IV. After six hours Hinde ordered a withdrawal to a more defensible position on a knoll west of Villers-Bocage. Next day the Germans attacked the defensive "Brigade Box" in the Battle of the Island. The British inflicted a costly repulse on the Germans and then retired from the salient. The Battle for Caen continued east of Villers-Bocage, which was captured in ruins on 4 August, after two raids by the strategic bombers of the Royal Air Force.

The British conduct of the Battle of Villers-Bocage has been controversial, because the British withdrawal marked the end of the post D-Day "scramble for ground" and the start of an attritional battle for Caen. Historians have written that the British attack was a failure, caused by a lack of conviction among some senior commanders rather than the fighting power of the German army, although some judge the British force to have been insufficient for the task. The "single-handed" attack by Wittmann early on, has excited imaginations to the extent that some historians and writers conclude that it has dominated the historical record to an unwarranted degree and that while "remarkable", the role of Wittmann in the battle has been exaggerate

Anyways, I think this discussion about Wittmann vs Carius is veering off topic. I simply stated that I think Wittmann was the better tank commander, and nothing will change that, so this topic should remain about Otto Carius, who no doubt was one of the finest tank commanders in WW2.

It may have been off-topic,in which case you should not have have written it at all -but I think there does need to be a re-balance, now that you have advanced in Hilter-mode

Germany is the laughing stock of Europe(I'm laughing at Germany anyways) but they can make amends depending on what they do regarding Otto Carius. I don't believe Germans are necessarily stupid,so they should pay their respects to an officer who fought for their country, and grant him military honours. Otto wasn't charged with any war crimes so there's no reason not to honour him for his service to the fatherland.

Does Austrian blood course though your veins? Adolf Hitler is dead. (I assume from your familiar use of "Otto", that you were a personal friend of his?)

EDIT: I would not any of the above to take away from Middle East/Italian allied forces of which there many more, especially individuals like Anders Lassen VC, MC (+2 bars) (Denmark SBS)

I should've clarified, I meant that Wittmann was my personal favourite tank commander/ace from WW2. As for why I think Wittmann was better than Carious is because Wittmann was unorthodox with his strategies and seized opportunities that most other tank commanders wouldn't have taken. The Battle of Villers-Bocage is a fine example of Wittmann single handedly defeating the British Army and forcing them to retreat; he successfully engaged British tanks and AT guns in large numbers; the British didn't know what to do and had to retreat from Wittmann and his crew.


Otto on the other hand did everything by the books relatively speaking; he didn't take huge gambles and risks like Wittmann did, and it's why I don't consider him better than Wittmann; Wittmann's actions resulted in either victory or decisive defeat.

But Carius (with his men) rescued an entire encircled German army, with Navy support, whereas Wittmann was facing troops with lesser tanks and simply carried out a surprise attack.

I also like him because he was in the Waffen SS, and as far as i'm aware he wasn't charged with war crimes, so it adds to the pile of evidence that most Waffen SS troops were simply fighting for their country, and not out of political ideals.

Care needed...

One of the finest tank commanders in WW2(Not better than Wittmann though) and gave the Americans and Russians one hell of a fight, so he has my respect. I wonder if the modern German Army will attend his funeral or pay respects? In a way, men like Otto Cariius, Wittmann and Kurt Knispel paved the way for modern tank combat, and if there's any tank aces that emerge from future conflicts, they'll have these German tank commanders to thank.

I am struggling to understand your post.

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Whilst Wiki has to be treated with caution, it seems abundantly clear that Carius (and his gunner(s) ) were more proficient than Wittmann (and his gunner(s) ). And given that Carius operated against heavier Soviet Battle tanks, my confusion deepens.

Can you enlighten me?

We now have two threads on the same subject. There was really no need to start this one as well, since the other thread was already in existence in the the Scrap Yard, which is the correct place.

There is no point in running parallel threads,so I am locking this one.