Profile of |GB| The Lnt.599

Soviets 6 men squads take longer to force off the field because of sheer hitpoints advantage alone.
Against small arms fire Concripts have 440 effective hitpoints, while Grens have only 352. Penals have 480. Panzergrenadiers have 400. A Maxim crew has 384 effective hitpoints while an HMG 42 crew has only 256. Against AOE weapons, when target size doesn't matter, Soviet squads have 480 while most German units have 320-400. Similar losses (losing 2-3 models) mean earlier retreats for German units.

Now of course this is partly compensated by most German infantry dealing more damage per model, but the other way to balance the Soviets' high durability is with slightly worse healing. They can stay on the field longer, but the catch is that they'll also take a bit longer to return. This is deliberate.

'slightly worse healing' i think that is an understatement. And when its about 'taking a bit longer to return', i feel like not having a frp is sufficient enough to achieve that. How can u justify having a 6 squad (with often no weapon upgrades)and having no decent heal nor frp, while most other factions have (dubble) waepon upgrades, good heal, 5 man squad and frp on top of that. If i am a total new, i would know what to pick.

sure sovjet maybe shouldnt have a frp or the best healing in a game, but there is no reason to justify the shitty base options they have atm. im a ferm believer that the m5 with heal as the 251 would be just the thing to make their heals a bit better without over doing like you seem so afraid of. And if nothing changes people will keep (try) hugging ambos anyway and will be back just as fast.

delete 7man cons upgrade first

and add another healing option

i would be fine with that though, or big nerfs on 7man squad. its not just 7 man atm its also faster reload in cover and faster vet gain if im not mistaken.

btw good news for you then that they gonna remove atleast the reload bonus, its in the preview patch notes atm

Healing is supposed to be the Soviets' achilles' heel, in return for their above average field presence because of the natural durability of all their 6 men squads.

one would say that having a fhqs with amazing (aura) healing weapon, 5 man infantry with (dubble) wapon upgrades would be stronger then having 6 man squad with NO (AURA) heals NO weaponupgrades NO fhq.

btw im sorry but if u let a sovjet have 'above average map presence' while he has to go to base for shitty heals you serious need to improve your play. 3 ladies healing 6 man models on so many squads is so time consuming.

specially when your models drop like flies because as said they are 6 man

First of all, i know there are certain doctrines for sovjets that give them other healing options. However i feel that some features, like good/multiple healing options, should be available to all factions.

Now all other factions have multiple ways of healing or just 1 very solid way of healing.(See below)

USF:

• Ambulance, only one heal option but by far the best one in the game. Simply because u have aura heals anywhere you put your ambo on the battlefield.
  

UKF:

• Infantry section healing aura. Basically same heals as the ambo provides
  
• The FHQ with medic upgrade. Can be planted anywhere on the battle field to provide heals and re-enforcements
  

OKW:

• MED HQ can be planted anywhere on the battlefield and provide heals (no aura) and re-enforcements
  
• Sturmpio medpacks cheap aura heals (45 ammo for 3 aura heals) anywhere on the battlefield
  
• Most OKW mainline infantry gain self heal at vet
  

OST:

• medbunker, a bit time consuming to set up, but can be placed anywhere on the battlefield to provide non aura heals
  
• vet 1 med kit on pio/gren can heal any unit for 15 ammo to almost always full hp
  
• 251 halftrack non upgraded this halftrack can give heals to all units inside the truck while also providing re-enforcements to units around it. This option arrived in on of the recent patches.
  

SOV:

• healing ladies in base, non aura heals.
  

So what can be concluded from above? As sovjet you have to parasite on the heals of your non sovjet allies if you don't want to retreat back to base to heal up your comrades. This does not promote soft retreating as sovjet to your half track for example, cuz what are you gonna do with a 5 man squad below 50% hp that you can re-enforce to 6.

If u cant make it to heals of your non-sov allies on time it means u have to run. Which cost you a lot of map presence specially in 4v4 or 3v3 where the advantage of heaving a forward retreat point becomes more and more eminent. If u have either a forward retreat point or heals anywhere on the battle field but no retreat point you will always be able to maintain better map presence.

Now for some reason all other factions have at least 2 healing options, or 1 very very solid one. Now im ok with some factions not having forward retreatpoints ias long as u can soft retreat after winning a fight to a halftrack or commandpost and re-enforce AND HEAL your troops. Now osther can can do its and especially since last patch with the 251 changes.

Which leaves sovjets behind as the only faction with the worst healing options by freaking miles.
Now the balance team could start thinking or discussing some way of aura heals or other options. But plz give the non upgraded m5 the same healing option ability as his vanilla faction brother 251. The 251 got this ability to make non upgraded halftracks better, because lets be fair who used a non upgraded m5, i bet it was used just as less as the non upgraded 251. This healing for units in the truck could be expanded to all halftracks types imo.

Plz discuss healing options and suggestions, and don't tell me to use a doctrine or parasite on my teamm8 heals, which can be very hard to do with randomes. Besides its just as bad design as giving factions no mg's or non doc arty or snipers. Except this issue can be very easily solved for sovjets with the m5, and hack maybe even m3 med packs.

All factions should have re-enforcements AND reliable or decent heals ANYWHERE on the battlefield. atm only 4/5 factions have this

So i was scrolling through the new patchnotes today, and i couldn't find this bug fix in there yet. Maybe i misread but i was just curious on what is going on. If u need anymore testing im willing to play some more games with it.

since im a big fan of the new arty officer