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Thread: Elite Mod 3.023 Nov 2014, 17:17 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Nov 2014, 15:28 PM12ocky - It hasn't really been nerfed, except for the Goliath bug. Scoutcar has had a couple of nerfs yes, but it's also buffed in several ways. - Exactly the reasons I changed it. Nobody ever got advanced repairs because they would just get luftwaffe groundforces: a much cheaper solution. Then again: advanced repairs was just so expensive. It almost channeled people into getting Luftwaffe. I'm trying to create some more doctrinal options. Because i'm almost certain over 50% of the games people picked Luft - Hmm PE blob has increased in power yes. It's probably a tad too strong, but I wouldn't write this off to the upgrades. I'm already looking for a couple of ways to nerf it. * New mortar has some really good powers * AC? better than ever, Overdrive tad weaker. * ATHT: I already need to nerf this because I made the Treadbreaker OP. Whilst I thought I was nerfing it. - Yes that's fixed. It's weaker now at killing tanks. But has increased effectiveness vs infantry compared to the old one. -scout car need some neft (yes but i think 5 fuel needed is enough and reduce its cap rate is too much) ammo halftrack need 10 fuel? (how many time you ever seen any1 build such thing in 100 game? i think you need to buff it not neff it ) vampire can cap now and its cool -not sure is it really to neff luff ground force's repiar ability cause advance repair is pretty cheap now and people might choose other doctline instead now.but if you neff luff ground force repair ability , are you going to buff it combat ability or make it's cost/reinforce cost cheaper? (since rifleman got buff in rifle accuracy and reinforce cost and the only other reason choose it is cause it can capture weapon, cheaper reinforcement might be good ) - maybe 50% of people pick luff now but there is > 75% people pick t2 -> t3 -> t4 now and 80% people blob pg with 4 squad or more (1v1).T1 is hardy seen except for increase squad size and only small amount of scout car is used. should nerf pg blob and make more people choose t1) -ac using puma gun now but its more expensive and dont have health bonus now and vet1 def neffed, upkeep also increased -not sure about atht , didnt test it (so tb not work on full health us t4 unit?) -good to see how hotchkiss work now (can the effectiveness vs infantry compare to stuart and m8 ) In: COH Central
Thread: Elite Mod 3.023 Nov 2014, 03:42 AM Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2014, 18:28 PM12ocky a small PE update is here! Elite Mod 3.3 Unlike with vCoh changes: 5 million hours, low risk changes, because the balance between the factions was already pretty good; This patch (tiny rework) is a pure gamble and was made in only a few hours. I can't guarantee it being better or awesome or w/e. But at least that's the idea! -Dont understand why t1 unit need the nerf (anyone play t1 these day?) -Most people get luff doctline for the advance repair of ground force but it got nerf and dunno will people still use it -PG tech is cheaper,better (PG start ,at nade,field craft,group zeal,vet sarge, shrek dmg increase , reinforce cost lowered , sniper nerf , pg death exp decrease) but ac,atht,mortar are more costly. so PE is all about PG blob now? -Is hotchkiss upgun 100% penetrate vs heavy armour (persh and churchill )'s front armour fixed In: COH Central

Thread: Elite Mod 3.023 Nov 2014, 17:17 PM

23 Nov 2014, 15:28 PM12ocky

- It hasn't really been nerfed, except for the Goliath bug. Scoutcar has had a couple of nerfs yes, but it's also buffed in several ways.

- Exactly the reasons I changed it. Nobody ever got advanced repairs because they would just get luftwaffe groundforces: a much cheaper solution. Then again: advanced repairs was just so expensive. It almost channeled people into getting Luftwaffe. I'm trying to create some more doctrinal options. Because i'm almost certain over 50% of the games people picked Luft

- Hmm PE blob has increased in power yes. It's probably a tad too strong, but I wouldn't write this off to the upgrades. I'm already looking for a couple of ways to nerf it.
* New mortar has some really good powers
* AC? better than ever, Overdrive tad weaker.
* ATHT: I already need to nerf this because I made the Treadbreaker OP. Whilst I thought I was nerfing it.

- Yes that's fixed. It's weaker now at killing tanks. But has increased effectiveness vs infantry compared to the old one.

-scout car need some neft (yes but i think 5 fuel needed is enough and reduce its cap rate is too much) ammo halftrack need 10 fuel? (how many time you ever seen any1 build such thing in 100 game? i think you need to buff it not neff it ) vampire can cap now and its cool

-not sure is it really to neff luff ground force's repiar ability cause advance repair is pretty cheap now and people might choose other doctline instead now.but if you neff luff ground force repair ability , are you going to buff it combat ability or make it's cost/reinforce cost cheaper? (since rifleman got buff in rifle accuracy and reinforce cost and the only other reason choose it is cause it can capture weapon, cheaper reinforcement might be good )

- maybe 50% of people pick luff now but there is > 75% people pick t2 -> t3 -> t4 now and 80% people blob pg with 4 squad or more (1v1).T1 is hardy seen except for increase squad size and only small amount of scout car is used. should nerf pg blob and make more people choose t1)

-ac using puma gun now but its more expensive and dont have health bonus now and vet1 def neffed, upkeep also increased

-not sure about atht , didnt test it (so tb not work on full health us t4 unit?)

-good to see how hotchkiss work now (can the effectiveness vs infantry compare to stuart and m8 )

In: COH Central

Thread: Elite Mod 3.023 Nov 2014, 03:42 AM

12 Nov 2014, 18:28 PM12ocky

a small PE update is here!

Elite Mod 3.3

Unlike with vCoh changes: 5 million hours, low risk changes, because the balance between the factions was already pretty good;
This patch (tiny rework) is a pure gamble and was made in only a few hours.

I can't guarantee it being better or awesome or w/e. But at least that's the idea!

-Dont understand why t1 unit need the nerf (anyone play t1 these day?)
-Most people get luff doctline for the advance repair of ground force but it got nerf and dunno will people still use it
-PG tech is cheaper,better (PG start ,at nade,field craft,group zeal,vet sarge, shrek dmg increase , reinforce cost lowered , sniper nerf , pg death exp decrease) but ac,atht,mortar are more costly. so PE is all about PG blob now?
-Is hotchkiss upgun 100% penetrate vs heavy armour (persh and churchill )'s front armour fixed

In: COH Central