Profile of Alexzandvar

You are wrong. It is not that okw does not have any other viable builds. It is that Volks/Obers/Panther are more potent than anything else.

A Panther/Volks/and Obers isn't going to save you from indirect fire, so I hope you enjoy priests/152/203 artillery turning your blob into red mist.

If I had ten bucks for every time a OKW player lost his entire army to my artillery, and I just ignore his Panther because lmao panther to counter infantry, I would have a lot of 10 dollar bills.

Sturmtiger doesn't even need to fire a shot to make people retreat, can never get that with a boring old Panther.

This.

You have many replacement for Obers.
Panzerfusiliers, Falsch, even Volks spam followed by Jaegers.
Jadgpanzer is as good at killing vehilces as Panther.
Puma can work wonders.
Right used AA truck is a nightmare.
But in the end you will always blob Volks+Obers+Panther.

You can't say that about SU and OST because they are encouraging to use combined arms. I mean, you can't spam Grens, Grens, Grens, Grens... into Tiger, right?
Soviets can't spam cons into T34/85.
Even USF can't spam Rifles without any support. You need 57mm or M20 or AA or Captain and then, you might spam Shermans or M8+Jackson combo.

OKW is just bullshit faction.

Not a single one of those infantry units can touch Obers in scaling and anti infantry power (while also being more expensive wtf Fallsch), Obers are bullshit I admit but all they need is their LMG34 removed or toned down.

Jadgpanzer Is 1. Not as good as killing enemy Vehicles as a Panther and 2. The least mobile medium TD in the game. It's not bad, but it's outclassed by other things OKW can make outside of the Panther.

OKW isn't any more bullshit than any other faction, every single faction the game is poorly designed. The only reason soviets have more choice is because of how the commander system works and how Soviet teching works.

Well, Ostheer isn't badly designed, but that's exactly the reason why it loses out to all the over factios

Axis have a few medium tanks, medium tanks that don't require lots of micro.

USA Medium Tanks: all countered by OKWs "single tank destroyer"

SU Medium Tanks: There were units here, but a Panther killed them all

Yeah next time you play OKW rush a Jadgpanzer and see how far that gets you against a horde of shocks and riflemen

At least Allies have units, I want to play with mediums, but they don't exist, the only OKW medium tank is in the worst OKW commander in the game.

And yeah we know that Panther is good, we all just wish there was other good fuel based AT options outside of a Elefant/Jadgtiger.

1. Watch top level replays. Puma and Command Pz4 are units that can save OST against USF.
2. Pak has much higher chances to penetrate IS2 than 57mm to penetrante Tiger, not to mention vetted Panther, King Tiger, Ele or Jadgtiger.
3. Double Pak40 is must have for OST.

Elefant and Jadgtiger do counter IS2, but neither are relevant to the match up of a IS2 versus a Tiger (suffice to say they are better counters), vetted Panther is good but you would crucify me if I said the same thing about an IS2, and a King Tiger requires you build every OKW HQ and save up 260 unadjusted fuel.

Double Pak40 is a huge MP investment in an already MP starved faction, and Puma is a light vehicle and the commander PzIV is a low health/armor medium tank, both of which Zooks preform very well against.

Why would you willingly make tanks so you can fit perfectly into USF counters, it would be like making SU-85's to kill a Jadgtiger

.8 received accuracy modifier won't fix squad wipes by AoE. The unit is working as intended.

The fact is has a 4 man squad is what isn't work at intended, Rifles can wipe them just as easy at range than a mortar shell can. If your going to make them a 4 man squad the least you could do is give them some durability against infantry

About every faction?
SU: Cons, Shocks, Guards, Penals, Sniper, Maxim, ZiS, T70, T34, SU85, Katy, IS2, 120mm.
OST: Grens, PzGrens, MG, Mortar, Pak40, PzIV, Tiger, 222, 221.
USF: Rifles, Lt+M20/AA or Cpt+57mm+Stuart, Shermans, Jacksons, M8, Paras.

We see those units all the time. One time it will be Sherman spam, other it will by Jackson+M8.

OKW:
Volks, Obers, Luchs, Panther, King Tiger. Most seen OKW units. All 251, leig, Panzerfusi, Falsch, Jaeger, Puma, Strumtiger, raketen. You dont see this units often.

Yes, sometime, someone will try to go for Falsch+Jadgpanzer but then he will realise than Obers+Panther are just better.
It's just shitty design of the faction.

SU or USF you must decide if you want little support (T1, Lt) or heavy one. This must be combined with your doctrine, like snipers+guards.
OKW can give a garden about that. No matter what will enemy do, Volks+Obers+Panther can stand against everything.

Dude you are agreeing with me, nobody likes the fact that OKW has very little viable builds due to the weird pricing combined with the reduced fuel income and the distribution. The reason I like to do odd builds using the Jadgpanzer, or Sturmtiger is that it's fun for me, but that means I'm going out of my way, were as with Soviets I have a pretty big wealth of options that work. The fact OKW has this basic build that deals with everything is bad, but still a Panther ain't going to get you far at all against a blobs, that's were the sturmtiger comes in

Ostheer is even WORSE however, but this thread isn't about them.