u continue to mislead
lemme refresh wat YOU said
Yes, most Pwerfs operate at exact range or lower than that of mortars because of the fact the Pwerf is only effective at very close range.
Thread: OST Panzerwerfer: Truly Underpowered24 Mar 2015, 19:07 PM
Yes, most Pwerfs operate at exact range or lower than that of mortars because of the fact the Pwerf is only effective at very close range. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 19:04 PM
All this means is USF needs better AT other than the Jackson, not that the Panther needs to be nerfed. In: Lobby |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 19:03 PM
I think the issue is that Allies need more AT options, and USF needs more diverse AT options. Remember people: Buff not nerf. If the Panther needs to be looked at look at what counters it. Why not buff Zooks and the USF AT gun? Up the pen but lower the DPS? How about giving USF a more reliable AT nade? In: Lobby |
Thread: OST Panzerwerfer: Truly Underpowered24 Mar 2015, 18:58 PM
The Pwerf can only preform at very close range, meaning your having to use it at ranges you would normally only reserve for mortars. "Effective range" and "possible range" are two very different things queen. In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 18:57 PM
I would lower its frontal armor and increase its DPS. Plain and simple. It is no longer LOL bullet proof and will require utilization of its range advantage over Other Mediums and Heavies. It would be rewarded with close to a TD level of damage output. What AT is it not weak against? It's already weak to dedicated AT, what's OP is Blitz allowing it to moonwalk away. In: Lobby |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 18:56 PM
That is literally what I just said. And the ZiS gun DOES have a 50% or more chance to pen the Panthers. 200.0/190.0/180.0 = 62.5% chance/59.3% chance/ 56% chance And considering the SU-85 has the exact same pen profile....
So? The Pak40, will kill armor faster. But it's not comparable to to the Jackson because one is an AT gun and the other is a highly mobile TD. What is your point? In: Lobby |
Thread: OST Panzerwerfer: Truly Underpowered24 Mar 2015, 18:50 PM
It has not always shot 10 rockets. If you have ever used the Assault Officer you would see when you use his barrage ability it fires the original number of rockets. And it's scatter is larger, but it also fire's the rockets in a higher arc as well as few ones. It is more effective in close range than the Katyusha, but that's the only range it's effective in. Then of course you have the issue were it's in t4... In: COH2 Balance |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 18:48 PM
There is no such thing as MBT in WWII thats a post war construct. Axis has plenty of AT and have never ever and never will hurt in that department. After all the Pak40 is like a Jackson with Better Pen. Ost can make that in T2. The Pak40 doesn't do 240 damage, the JPIV is the least mobile medium in the game, and the Panther nerf was before OKW was added as a faction. In: Lobby |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 18:47 PM
The Panther isn't over preforming, rather, it is literally the only turret non-doc Axis tank in the game that we see built anymore thanks to a lack of options. The Tiger is spammed because it is cheaper, the OKW Panther is often mandatory because of the non-viability of the Rackten and the fact the JPIV is extremely unmobile and lacks any kind of traversable gun. The Zook is useless against the KT and Panther, but it does excellent DPS to the PIV, Ost, and StuG III. You would see more Zooks if you saw more Axis mediums, unfortunately they do not exist for OKW and are non-viable for Ostheer. And I think the last Panther nerf can tell you were the unit will end up if it's nerfed; the garbage bin. In: Lobby |
Thread: Real Talk: Panther24 Mar 2015, 18:41 PM
I just had to deal with it in a 2's game. With a muni cache here and there you can get a fair amount of Zooks out. And they do a good level of DPS to mediums such as the PIV, Ost, and StuG. EDIT: Regardless, the Panther is not over preforming, if allied armor needs help it needs help, we don't need the last non-doc MBT in the game for Axis to be reduced to non-viability. In: Lobby |
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