Profile of Alexzandvar

Honestly I'm in favor a hotfix to it ASAP just because I want to see how low we can get the OKW win rate too once this crutch is removed.

I guess the 30 is average cause i was surprised by such a number as 68.4% ?

30 was the average yes. When a certain specific trend developed (such as almost 0 change in results over time) I moved on because yknow manually testing this shit takes a long time. I also rounded up in several cases because I assume you don't need to know it was 68.3673892%. There was also the issue of RNG jesus, because of the slow firing speed of Kar98k's and Mosins if one squad got unlucky and missed a lot they would lose for no good reason (which is a problem in and of itself imo).

I mean I wouldn't base my graduate research on the robustness of this study but It's just a smart/fun way to actually feeling how much received accuracy can impact unit performance.

Further note:
-Was Hoorah used?
-Cover?
-Did units had vision on each other? Max range =/= Vision range

No using cover because this about testing received accuracy. Used Oorah! to close distance each time as any good player would use it when closing to CQC. And units always had max vision because I wanted to test to see if absolute max range would give Volks/Grens enough time to kill enough models to win.

Based on the trend developed it's easy to tell that assuming no max sight range it would swing the odds in favor of Cons and Riflemen even more.

LMG DPS: One of the reasons grens are so strong late game is the amount of DPS their LMG outputs. Likewise one of the reasons they remain relatively balanced late game as well is because of how fragile a 4 man squad can be later on. If gren survivability increases then the DPS of their LMG upgrade would have to decrease to account for the extra late game survivability of the squad.

But what about 1919 Rifles? The 1919 is essentially an LMG42 in all respects and Riflemen have 5 men AND better received accuracy.

Speaking of uncounterable artillery... there is a particular unit in the OKW faction which has caused this enormous demand for USF and UKF counter-fire possibilities.

Are you talking about the ISG? Because countering it is hard until you get heavier artillery but it's pretty much assumed the Pack howi and ISG will be reworked, neither are heavy indirect fire.

The Stuka Zu Fuss is pretty much unseen in 1v1 and 2v2 due to it's very high cost and the fact OKW can't really afford to just not make vehicles for 10+ minutes to get one since no vehicle means the enemy can push you off easier. Even so avoiding it's attacks isn't impossible and I don't know how having artillery in USF or UKF would counter it?

Regardless USF has the best howitzer in the game at the moment, best AoE profile, best direct hit damage, able to be moved to reduce scatter and avoid Stuka bomb strikes, and they can be decrewed so you don't need to pay the popcap for them since the barrage recharges while they are decrewed.

Can we not start with the L2R insults? Are you incapable of replying to me without questioning my intelligence?

While I would love to see grens turned into a 5-man squad, this change would actually require a NERF to overall grenadier squad DPS to keep balance. Currently the only reason conscripts can beat grenadiers is because of the fact that they have more men. At close range, a grenadier model has higher DPS than conscript DPS by quite an amount. Increasing gren squad size to 5 and spreading the DPS across all the models will make it almost impossible for a 5-man conscript squad to win the fight (losses taken from closing).

If you add a 5-th man, the grens need to have an overall lower DPS than than they had 4-men to make sure that the increased TTK (time to kill) for allied squads doesn't give the grens a much higher advantage, since they have better DPS.

This is mostly incorrect. A close range Conscripts have 3.4 DPS per model and Grens have 5.9 DPS per model. A Gren squad at point blank range loses to a Con squad because the Con squad has better survability with 6 men, not because the conscript squad has better DPS. When Cons are upgraded with PPSH and thus have 9.6 DPS at close range they can lose several more models in closing and still win be it at Vet 0 or Vet 3.

The big issue becomes when later on in the game you are dealing with squad wipes from explosives as Ostheer because of your smaller squad sizes, AND now you have to deal with the fact your squads are also more fragile to small arms.

I decided to run some tests on it to ensure my thesis is correct, results were quite informative!

-At vet 3 a riflemen squad with 1 BAR can charge across a field at max range and win against a Vet 3 LMG Gren squad with a reliability of 68.4%, additional BAR's or a flamethrower or 1919's brings this up to 93.4% (well adding them all together 1919 Rifles don't need to close to beat Grens)

-At vet 3 a riflemen squad with no upgrades can close from max range and beat a Vet 5 Volks squad with no upgrades 1 on 1 with 97.5% (only had the riflemen lose once due to insane RNG )

-Addition of upgrades to Vet 3 Riflemen give them basically a 100% chance of beating Vet 5 Volks even at mid to far range.

-A vet 3 conscript squad with no upgrades can close from max to close against Vet 3 LMG Grens and win 49.2% of the time (wins were often insanely close, with 1 member always being left on each side with almost no health left)

-A vet 3 PPSH Conscript squad can close from max to close against Vet 3 LMG Grens and win 68.87% of the time.

-A vet 3 conscript squad with no upgrades can close from max to close against Vet 5 Volks with no upgrades and win 62% of the time. RNG jesus holds a lot of say here.

-A vet 3 conscript squad with PPSH's can close from max to close against Vet 5 volks with no upgrades and win 83% of the time. RNG matters a lot less with the more accurate and less RNG dependent PPSH's.


Conclusion: Hard to really say that LMG Gren's are just "A-move to win" when almost every Vet 3 Allied equivalent squad can literally run up to them and win with often 60%+ reliability