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Thread: Panzerwerfer fix8 Jan 2020, 12:18 PM The problem with the Panzerwerfer is its limited area of effect. It is designed to have a chance of wiping 1 unit. Nothing more. Now if you want to play mind games with your enemy (targeting vs dodging) the werfer will be a failure more often than any other arty since you only cover that small area. In the end the Werfer is dodged more easily. Secondly the Werfer has to deal with large Soviet formations (6 men crewsand sqauds) that cover huge areas. A Werfer will not push that formation away. It comes down to the role of the Werfer not being needed. Ost needs area denial arty, not pinpoint accurate arty (which the Werfer fails to do aswell at times). The LeFH doesnt really help much any longer since the reload overnerf. And Ost crutching on Tigers to compensate for non existant T4 means you cant go for the LeFH in the first place. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Upcoming updates?4 Jan 2020, 15:11 PM What about the lategame faction getting a lategame? Ost T4 buff is pretty inevitable. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: I finally figured what the g43 upgrade is good for!3 Jan 2020, 08:53 AM Well, that is the problem of Ostheer being utter trash in this patch, mostly because it has no lategame left. It has nothing to do with G43s though. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: I finally figured what the g43 upgrade is good for!2 Jan 2020, 13:58 PM Imo G43s are one of the best doctrinal abilities in the game. - Your Grens get a dps buff on the move (different to the MG42) - You safe 15 ammo per squad and per upgrade. That is decent considering upgrading your Grens is a necessity and you purchase the upgrade a lot. - They do not drop (though this is arguably also a disadvantage). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Will be upcoming patch?27 Dec 2019, 12:08 PM Next patch should bring some buffs to Ostheer: 1. Puma unlocks after T3 is researched but is built from T2. 2. Brummbär: Range increase to pre nerf. 3. Panther acc on the move improvement. 4. Panzerwerfer vet 1 should be a spread out barrage. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Great OKW commander balancing22 Dec 2019, 16:59 PM A Sturmtiger damage buff - as proposed by the thread starter - will NOT make the Sturmtiger useful. Doing more damage does not help when the problem is that it actually can not hit anything fast enough. The range needs to be increased, so it can fire beyond the fog of war. Make it inaccurate or nerf the wipe potential so it does not get OP. The AVRE works, because it has a turret and the other player can't as easily predict where the AVRE player is goign to aim the shot. The Sturmtiger moves the whole hull into the targeted direction so is easily dodged. Thus imo the only way to make the Sturmtiger usefull is more range. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stats from the WCS 2019 2.0 - Siphon X version19 Dec 2019, 20:00 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2019, 19:12 PMSander93 Can we please all realise that these stats do not confirm anything. The sample size is way too low, and because of that there are numerous factors that make these statistics unreliable. As Siphon specifically notes in his observations: These statistics are very globally indicative of trends at best, and not even remotely close to anything definitive. Elite Armor was in loadouts 13 times. It was actually picked only 3 times, by only two players if I'm reading these stats correctly, so this does not really indicate anything. Other than that these two players happened to not build the unit for whatever unknown reason. Well, when my Ost win rate magically halfs since the last patch (and I used to be 2v2 top 10 every now and then) and I see a win rate of roughly a third of the Ost games played in the tournament it prooves enough for me. Problem is simply that Soviet heavies and large weapon crews can not be countered by German T4. The artillery is inadequate and the tanks are mediocre. Brummbär was nerfed too hard because it isn't allowed to coutner AT guns (while KV-8s, ISUs etc. are allowed to). The infantry is worse since it's 4 men. So you have the short stick in almost every relevant regard with Ostheer. In: Lobby
Thread: State of the Soviets14 Dec 2019, 21:12 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2019, 18:51 PMCresc T70 OP Quad OP T34/76 OP T34/85 OP Katyusha OP Cons OP Guards OP Shocks OP SU85 OP M3 OP ZiS OP IS2 OP Let's get it on boys, carry on! No need to be sarcastic. The problem of Soviets isn't so much a single unit but the combination of good units overall, which leaves Soviets with no disadvantage. It comes down to the question of what makes a good faction? I would say the following aspects (I marked every aspect for the Soviets with school grades (A - F): 1. Cheap units a) Upfront unit cost (Soviet units are amongst the cheapest in the game) A b) Reinforcement cost (Soviet infantry is amongst the cheapest to reinforce, Elite inf is a bit more expensive) B c) Do Upgrades have to be researched? (This is actually a weakness since Molotovs and AT-Nades have to be researched) D 2. Firepower a) DPS (Soviet infantry maintains a decent DPS) C b) Wipe potential (Best wiping potential in the game due to big and cheap guns, 120mm mortar, Zis barrage, good mines, T-34/85, KV 8, ISU 152, smaller Axis Squads) A c) Range (two 60 range TDs, Soviets are good here) A d) Artillery options (Best artillery options in the game, 152mm, 120mm mortar, B4, Kat) A e) Flexibility of their units (the abilites are good on some units like the ZIS and bad on others like the T-34 capping ability) C 3. Durability a) Large squad sices (Soviets have the largest squads and the largest weapon crews) A b) High HP and armour on vehicles (Again, excellent grades for Soviets, KV1s that can take more hits than Panthers, a great performing IS-2 and of course KV-8s that can dominate Paks even midgame). A Now where exactly is Soviets weakness? They EXCEL at cost, firepower and durability of their units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: wehrmacht buff opinions13 Dec 2019, 19:39 PM Ost simply needs its intended design. Premium lategame. That means T4 buffs. Ost disadvantages Ost is already disadvantaged because of the 4 men squads and its reliance on team weapons. MG42 Grens are wonky since they can't fire on the move, PGs will always be odd since they don't have that long range firepower. Another disadvantage is the lack of an armoured light vehicle. Lategame advantage of any Allied faction, aka outperforming Ostheers supposed advantage T4 buffs also wouldn't hurt any allied faction more than it should. Currently Soviets are batshit OP at any stage of the game but specifically in the lategame against their intended design. Brits have an advantage lategame with the Churchill or Comet which greatly outperform the German cats. The British problem lies in wonky transition from early to mid game and lack of artillery. USF have the Jackson to hard coutner any tank. Solution That being said: Brummbär needs its old range back and a tiny front armor boost. Panther needs accuracy on the move. Panzerwerfer performs strange. Sometimes it wipes, other times it can't hit stuff. I feel the Panzerwerfers biggest flaw is the lack of being able to cover a bigger area aka a Soviet player parking his 6 men weapon crews somewhat close to each other but far enough away from each other so the Werfer can't hit them both. Hard to explain. Anyhow, the Werfer can't push that away while any other artillery can. If possible the vet 1 could be replaced with a "spread out" barrage, somewhat Katjusha style. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: State of the Soviets8 Dec 2019, 12:11 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2019, 11:31 AMblvckdream The IS2 is very durable because it doesn't face 60 range high penetration TDs. Of course with armour/penetration it's a lot about RNG. You can have a P4 pen an IS2 twice in a row if luck is on your side. Especially due to how rear armour works in COH2. Often times shots from the front that are slightly angled end up counting as rear armour hits. Again, the JP IV needs better penetration and the StuG needs a better vet 2 bonus (vet 2 is almost useless). This would already go a long way to balance allied heavy tanks. In: COH2 Balance