Profile of Ther0

**Disclaimer, this is a long post and also contains rants, even if understand basic stuff like "it's normal that fixing bug creates different bugs" and "we all played this for enough hours anyway"**

The problem is that you shouldn't NEED this much patches. Bugfix can be tricky, that's a fact, but again strong balance issue shouldn't pop out to the game. (The last is the Katyusha stuff, how could they missed the huge ammount of damage that thing dealt before release?! Another pretty much similar problem there was for DoW2 and the Genestealer, that they had aura multipler that stacked limitless making 3/4 squads together, immortals and prettymuch instakilled everything... fun moment as a tyranid player).

I mean, Relic, and expecially CoH2 has a strong group of people who is both really competitive and really fond to the game itself who could help avoiding this mistakes for the bigger audience. They could make some kind of closed beta for each patch..

Lastly, there is WFA. I don't know how many of you were lucky enough to enter the "Alpha", but geez, you can't make only 1 month with so little people playing (5000key delivered, i saw at best 1\200ppl on in the evening hours), for a whole expansion.

And we were lucky that some of the few people were actually there to claim bugs and balance issues, otherwise idk what kind of game we would have now.

And then we have features that they're clearly made wrong, like the War Spoils, so good in theory, so bad (mhh.. more than Bad they're troll, wich probably is worst) as they're now.

There are so many issue within the game that, even if it's decently playable and whatever, you can't simply say "programming is hard, give them a break!!"

In the whole reply i'm not talking of the unavoidable problems (such as the bugfixing that creates more bugs, that happen, expecially if you start trying to fix A LOT of bugs.. but you shouldn't end with so many bugs to the public at release.. but i will repeat myself if i continue this sentence), i'm talking of the bigger problems (balance and MAJOR bugs) that shoulded be fixed BEFORE release (so i'm not talking only at the state of the game right now).

On a final note, (please apology for the long text) being able to patch the live game SHOULD be a privilege, not the normality.

In the 90's or early 00's, you woulded have a shitload of people raging if a game came out with so many bugs at release and that game woulded stay in the shelter.

And back then the whole "customer is always right" didn't actually apply for the gaming industry.
Unhappy customers popped out pretty much together with the internet, it might be because people now can speak freely, but i don't believe that the fact that ALL the industry now rely on releasing not perfect games because "they can patch", isn't a reason of the more and more people who rants about this kind of stuff.

Sherman Jumbo if it ever gets added.

Well, that wasn't an Heavy tank at all.

I personally like the design choice of no heavies for U.S. Forces. I think players still don't realize how amazing the M8 Scott is for late game. You can bleed the hell out of Axis infantry with them from long range and minimal micro and they get "oh shit!" smoke at vet 1.

I would rather see the M24 Chaffe (75mm gun on a highly mobile light tank) and/or M18 Hellcat (76mm gun and 92kph top speed)

Both had torsion bar suspension so their strength could be accuracy on the move like the EZ8 at the price of thin armour.

It could be a replacement of the Jackson. Giving variability to the late game of the US, since Jackson could be tricky to use. I know that in the forum answers mostly people in the top 100, but you have to look even to the "noobier" ^^" 100 players vs thousands.

Exactly. USF have an great early and mid game, who wouldn't go for the Pershing doctrine every time? If they introduce the Pershing this faction needs some major changes.

I will not argue with a strong player as you, but you can balance it quite effectly, unfortunatly since this is a videgame it IS NOT Historically accurate. Also as i stated before, it could replace the Jackson (at higher cost, of course.. it should cost like 200 fuel considering the armor and the gun) and it could not have the crew popping out.

Or it could be like the Tiger Ace doctrine, you will get an awesome tank, but if you lose it, you can't get it back.

First one was not used during the period USF army is in game.

2nd one was never used, it was only a prototype. Makes as much sense as adding MAUS.

Lol Pershing wasn't used in the western front ? Would you please explanin the photo of a pershing in the middle of Cologne ? Anyway it was built in the same period of the Jagtiger, and beside any of the historical fact, it's a game that isn't properly "historically accurate" when it comes to doctrine, effectiveness of units and such (if a tiger hit a t34, that tank would exploded becauese of the depression caused by the speed of the Tiger Round.. you had to be quite lucky to survive a tiger shoot. Also Tigers crew were extremly precise at 1 kilometer.. in game they miss A LOT.. so don't bring history in this discussion because it's not an historically accurate game)

Anyway i think that having the Maus in a wunderwaffen doctrine would be quite fun, but really hard to balance, expecially considering that almost non of the in game gun could penetrate it..

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Than, someone said that if the US gets the Calliope, OKW needs something else... WHAT? USF is the only factions without rocket barrage so, at best, it would balance it..

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Anyway my 2 cents (that after everything i wrote it must be like 80 cents) is that Pershing should be in game for 2 main reason :

1. it's one of the most loved units (let's look at the number of this type of threads!) so people actually want and\or expect this tank in game
2. We have an heavy tank skin that's useless otherwise, since this is the only tank that, with some "tweak" could actually make in the game

HOW it will fits it should be up to Relic.

Again, i don't think we should be here to tell relic what to do, but if 50% of the people every time says that they want the pershing, and the other 50% mostly are axis fanboys that only reply with "if you give pershing to the US we want a Ratte ! And a Nuke ! And an Ion cannon ! Or it will be unbalanced!!!" (and the axis has basically all the most effective AT units in game :°D)

I guess always DoW2 has the possibility to see replays even from different version, i wonder why they didn't implement that in Coh2.

Anyway i do understand that it's WIP the whole War Spoils stuff, but again, they could give us something... I'm not a programmer so take this as it is, but in terms of times and develepment it can't be harder to fix that than making a whole new 3 campaigns..

More so, the replay thing could be implemented aswell, that would make replays way more usefull and durable and epic games won't be usefull after few weeks.

I think the point is that we're glad that you guys are working on single player stuff, that's great for a slice of people that plays your game.

But the fact is that a game like CoH Survive on Multiplayer and so far is really, really hard to love this game.

War Spoils are an issue, balance is an issue (i know it's not easy to balance a game like that, but, still you could just release smaller tweak patches even once a day if you wanted ! You did this for a period with DoW 2 Retribution), bugs are an issue.

So i think that we're just a bit disappointed that it was focused only on SP, but again, we still have Friday.

Quite a comback, i hope you appreciate this !

=Q= Ther0 and =Q= Biste vs someone.