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They. Are. Designed. With. That. In. mind.
They are capable of operation even if they lose trucks (or don't build them)

A major part of the game is decisions, one of the ones okw makes is when to get their medics.. They do not lack medics, they simply need to chose to get them and should they delay it there are plenty of options in place to offset that choice, some commanders like firestorm allow you to even bypass they tech entirely if you so please.

Choices are what make the game interesting and okw economic trade offs are no different.
It IS stark contrast to say the brits whom for some reason the balance team felt the need to waste valuable time to add multiple new healing options despite already having the easiest to access, cheapest and most effecient form, but that's beside the point at hand. Okw HAS healing options, self heal needs to be unturned on volks and things will be a lot more organic. Plus it'll help volks. Win win

As you say its not base on medic.
But you should get medic in either strategy. medic is not part of strategy. its core element of the game.

You need to do macro and blob your unit for medic, and in mid game you need spend lot of fuel for only medic. so its not ok. I say again, I know with tier 2, you can get MG and support gun.
I saying about medic, not other unit. if they add option to get only medic ( no unit - maybe ugrade to get it ) its be more balanced.

The Halftrack had healing before the bunker could have multiple upgrades.



You forgot feuersturm doctrines ambulance truck, which also gets nearby infantry a performance boost (iirc). Also; vet. 4 volksgren have auto healing, which no other mainline infantry has.

I listed all without commander, if i want to put commander i should consider half track for brit or usf

But it's not. As okw you sre the only faction that starts with healing. You get 3 aoe crates, you also get self healing on multiple combat units (volks need this returned to vet3 however). Doctrinally you also get single crates on the 221 and ambulance like opel blitz.

Okw is extremely aggressive. Part of the trade off for this is either economic drain on healing or certain teching.
In a similar vein soviet squads are extremely durable, part of the trade off for that is large target sizes and only being able to heal in base while all other factions can heal on field (there are doctrinal exceptions however, like there is for okw)


I could absolutely see okw getting a pair of medics at base when medics are unlocked, but medics being in the medic truck is part of their design and removing that aspect could have unseen effects.


Look at it this way, both med and mech reduce bleed. Mech does so via unbleeding armour, and med does so via healing. One is offensive and one is defensive.

Returning volks self heal to vet 3 could be exceptional for helping with the feel of okw healing. They don't insta vet via shrek anymore so there is no reason for it to be so delayed. Okw was designed to function regardless of truck. It's just been nerfed out of them in the name of homogoniziation

3 aoe is good only if you have more than one troop in base. Otherwise its only work for one infantry.

tech is not medic, im not saying AT is not medic!

medic is core element. There is 5 factions, and 4 of them can get medic in all tech path.

OKW need back tech for medic, I understand OKW has other things, but its better to give them medic even if something need removed from OKW.

Medics feels more like a "core" mechanic, like repairing vehicles or reinforcing. It's not /quite/ as vital as either of those, but it comes pretty close.

Totally agree, medic is a core mechanic. it's not something for balancing factions.
In OKW if you go mech, it's not possible at all to get the free medic. This is so unbalanced.

First of all, if you pay for it, its not free, not a single faction gets "free medic".

Second, don't skip it if you want medics or backtech if you got your 1st med out.
You're trying to create a problem where none exists.

By free I mean after you pay its free, for example sturmpioneer supply medic is not free, you have to pay it each time you need.


I explain that in my post about dont skip it for medic only! please read it.

There is a huge unbalance problem here. You stuck in tech path for for medic in OKW! this is not true for other faction.

I need a free medic and I need panzer 2 to handle blob, what can I do?
My tech tree is dependent on medic, not strategy! Or I have skip medic and use ammo each time for that and get panzer 2.
This is so unbalanced.

I don't understand why you can't see the problem. my tech tree is optional, in one of them I get medic in other I cant. this is not true for other factions.

First, let's see what is needed for medic in factions.

Soviet:
Headquarter: 200 MP

Ostheer:
Bunker: 150 MP for bunker + 60 ammo
Infantry: Veterency 1 + 10 ammo for each usage

OKW:
Battlegroup: 70 MP 15 fuel for truck + 150 MP 10 fuel for convert + 50 MP 10 fuel for upgrade
= 270 MP + 35 fuel

Sturmpioneer supply: 45 ammo 3 usage

USF:
Ambulance: 250 MP + 10 fuel + 2 pop cap

UKF:
Medic squad: 180 MP + 30 fuel for Platoon upgrade and 180 MP and 2 pop cap for squad
= 360 MP + 30 fuel + 2 pop cap
Infantry upgrade: 45 ammo


As you see OKW has a hard time reaching free medic and needs a lot of resources and time.

UKF can get free medic after squad upgrade so they haven't issue.

Ostheer need a unit in base to build that bunker so it takes time.


As you see for the soviet it's easy to get medic.

USF is easy too. also, they have powerful medic (ambulance is powerful and it worse 10 fuel).

For UKF if you go medic it's hard to reach and if you go infantry you get it easy and you don't need even MP but harder to macro so they are medium for that. (in my opinion, it's still easy)


Ostheer has medium timing and resources. ( As I say free medic not 10 ammo for each use ) I just don't understand why I need to use time for one infantry to build bunker. other factions can get it only from upgrades.

Imagine you need to retreat most of your troop and for medic, you have to waste a lot of time and the other players can push forward while you do that. keep in mind Ostheer is defensive in the early game.

For balance I suggest an upgrade like infantry section to get a free medic, instead of 1 veterency and 10 ammo for each time.

Or add upgrade in HQ with exact same resources.

OKW has a very very hard time. if you need a medic technically you should skip mechanized.
There is no way to get medic for free only. if you go battlegroup you get access to support gun and mg (without mechanized upgrade) so I understand why these resources are needed, but why there is no other way to get only medic for free?
35 fuel is too much for medic. I think for balance this it's better to make medic in headquarter too. or at least make it cheaper for medic only and remove mg and support access for this.

If you want to go mechanized and free medic, you will lose a lot of fuel and since you have very expensive tanks, you will lose for sure

I think that's why OKW is weaker. usually, players go to battlegroup and they don't have a light tank. they should wait for panzer 4 and need a lot of macro and experience to handle enemy light tank with short range AT and panzersherek upgrade.

UPDATE
for clarifation

• Free medic mean once you spend resources you get it until the end game
  
• For OKW I don't care about MG or support gun that I can get from tech truck, I'm talking about a medic, so don't tell me for this much resource you can get other units
  
• Back tech for OKW only work in the late game, usually player do that if they want to go king tiger
  
• I see a lot of players use OST bunker from teammates, because they want to go mech. if you don't have a good teammate you have a hard time
  
• I'm not saying get OKW big early advantage, at least give okw medic in mid-game if they go mechanize
  
• Lot of player say OKW has big early advantage. without medic, all unit in this game are week even shock troop. so dont compare like this.