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Thread: Why is the M20 so trashy?29 Oct 2018, 08:22 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Oct 2018, 05:37 AMLoren Advantages of m20: 1. Unilateral attack on an opponent who does not have an anti-vehicle. Lul at the time it hits the field, only if you play vs USF (non vet rifles), UKF (no snake) or Soviet... Other than that, Ostheer and OKW have pfaut. Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2018, 22:03 PMTobis It's not that bad, just too expensive. Lower MP to 220 and increase buildtime so it doesn't come out faster. lul again, what a nerf. So it comes at the same time with the 222. Today if you´re careful you have the 340mp and fuel when the lieutenant is completed. Jump back to quoted post29 Oct 2018, 01:18 AMCresc Imagine you're in a game where you're getting outmatched, your rifleman can hardly keep any offensive up and your opponent is going to get his first light in the field. The M20 is here to help, you can apply good pressure, get fast dps(your compare the dps to the 222, did you check the scatter value on each?) And...you get a free bazooka... If your opponent is ostheer and happen to get a sniper, you can trade your M20 for it. It's a expensive unit overall but it does its job. Lul 222 is simply twice better than the M20 while being twice as cheap. You've got a good imagination, can't deny it, if I was falling back the M20 would be the last unit I build to keep pace with my opponent. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why is the M20 so trashy?28 Oct 2018, 16:53 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2018, 16:32 PMLoopDloop The M20 is a decent unit (and super fun to use) but its way overpriced IMO; it costs the same manpower as a Sherman It shouldn't need a skirts upgrade (which still doesn't prevent it from dying in two hits) and vets super slow but other than that it's a pretty good unit. It has pretty decent long range damage and shines when chasing down retreating units at close range (which it's fast enough to do) or flanking lone team weapons because of its very good close range dps. Which imo make it trashy in the current meta. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why is the M20 so trashy?28 Oct 2018, 16:15 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Oct 2018, 16:13 PMCresc It's not trashy, you don't know how to use it. Hope you would explain. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: COH ONLINE: what was it about?28 Oct 2018, 14:09 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Oct 2018, 18:05 PMiTzDusty I probably put more hours into CoH than vCoH. . Don't forget the game was in beta. They shut down the servers like 2 months after having opened the real money system. The beta status explain a bit of everything, why so much unbalance and why the P2W wasn't a thing. In: COH Central
Thread: Why is the M20 so trashy?28 Oct 2018, 14:04 PM Lately I'm trying different strat with USF and forced me into calling a M20 to see what could be done with. What hurt a lot is the quantity of XP you need to reach vet1 and how slow it goes to do it. You need to kill 12 models of grenadiers and the unit simply doesn't kill anything, many time after 2 or 3 minutes of usage and micro, you barely get 1 or 2 kills. So I did some cheatmod tests and checked the stats with what is the closest unit, the 222: 222 is simply doing double damage at 35 range than the M20 222 35 range = 8.085 M20 35 range = 4.216 And in fact that pretty much a no match from range 0 to 35 even considering the 4men squad of Ostheer. So why is the M20 so trashy? Because of the mine? Can't see any sense in it, I see the mine as an incensitive to build the M20 not a primary function which would make the M20 dps secondary. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger 1 need a very little Buff in dmg26 Oct 2018, 10:50 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2018, 10:35 AMSander93 This TD meta is bad design as long as it counters every single vehicle. I'm fine with TDs countering heavy tanks - although this should be less easy (with range differences making it way too easy to kite currently). However, TDs should have lower rate of fire so they do not counter mediums as well. Right now, Allied TD is just the answer to everything and it makes the Allied game devoid of the same strategic choices Axis have to make. This is actually somewhat the case with OKW's Panzer IV ausf.J, that can win close range to TDs due to ROF as long as it can fire first. I think this rock-paper-scissors mechanic should be emphasized much more. Wut, which TD meta? do you think people build TD to win games? Just to remember, M36 Jackson is 14pop, build 2 and you've just lock 1/3 of your popcap into pure AT. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger 1 need a very little Buff in dmg26 Oct 2018, 10:15 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2018, 09:59 AMVipper Allied TD need to become less effective at max range. With the reduce of Panther's armor only Elephant, JT and KT have high armor. The penetration and accuracy can easily go down. Example SU-85 vet 3 penetration 312/299/286 Chance to penetrate Tiger max range 95% and 135% chance to hit. Chance to penetrate Panther max range 100% and 125% chance to hit. Should we apply the same logic for the Tiger itself? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So, how about bring back Riflemen Smoke?25 Oct 2018, 11:59 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 11:41 AMVipper Pioneers with Flamers shut down USF infantry play? seriously? Pioneer are probably the weakest flamer units. Can we pls stop with irrelevant issues and especially since you are not interested in restoring smoke to riflemen before we derail this thread? Lol, your logic is flawed and I'm the one irrelevant because I pointed it out. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So, how about bring back Riflemen Smoke?25 Oct 2018, 11:39 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 11:35 AMVipper I am simply demonstrating the silliness of "no manpower only" claim. The thing is quite simply either riflemen have smoke and not mortar or riflemen have no smoke and a mortar. Else they simply have an overwhelming advantage over Ostheer since they can completely shut down their HMG. This has been tried and it has been proven. By the same logic, how comes Pioneer access to FT when the 251 can also have it? Both also shut down USF infantry play. Anyway, I'm not particularly interested on rifleman having back smoke, I don't think it is going to chance anything at the moment. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF radical design changes ideas25 Oct 2018, 07:27 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 18:42 PMelchino7 Considering that getting an OKW like rework is impossible, you think that shuffling units from tiers wouldn't work at all because one would be the defacto tier to choose from? If i'm not missing the point, i think we are just gonna discuss whether keeping the current model with "stand alone" officers but with an easier access to both versus a straight linear tech is better. Considering USF reword is impossible, I would rather keep the actual tiering model and play with unit stats and cost. Like -Vet0 RM could receive native better RA at cost of lower RA reduction at vet3. Give Riflemen 0.87 native RA and maybe (need some test) people would stop rushing them or trying to outspam them with 4grens or 4volks start. -Ambulance fuel cost could be removed and manpower cost reduce -HMG.50 receive a wider cone of fire now that sprint is removed. -M1ATG having also a wider cone of fire so less flankable -M15 having native 360 health points so it survives 2 shots -BAR could cost 50 munitions instead of 60 I mean, if we decide to not touch the teching structure, there are things that can be done without destroying the balance. In: COH2 Gameplay