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I have a question. How can ostheer survive agains USA that go 3 rifles , lieutenant , m20 , medics , flamer engineer , captain , sutart and thne armor company vehicle meta (the m10 crush is used of course) sometimes he upgrades bars and sometimes he just spam mines and demos like no tomorow ?
How can i stop this USA train as ostheer.

I want more build orders and general tips , like map hoding , what houses to hold whitc maps to veto.

I have relatively good micro so i think problem is more in build orders.

Can you please help me (im talking from 1 vs 1 perspective)

Map Vetoes:

Ostheer favors a long ranged approach that allows them to make full usage of their support weapons and lmgs. This means that typically urban maps and overly "large" maps are to be vetoed. Personally, I find Ostheer has a hard time on maps like semoisky, la gleize, semoisky winter, road to kharkov, etc. Minsk pocket may also be something you want to veto simply because of how hard it is to spread out enough to capture the munitions points.

Build:

If you are expecting to be fighting a quick LT M20, the best counter you have is the 222. It has the same fuel cost as an M20, and costs less mp, sso is a very efficient counter to it. Furthermore, laying down an early teller mine on your retreat path is always a good idea. If an enemy is quick teching M20, they need to save up their munitions. The MG42 is also a very efficient soft counter, which becomes a hard counter with its vet 1 incendiary rounds.

Build Order:

mg, gren, gren, gren, tech, 222, pgren/ gren etc. With this start, you will have plenty of capping power early game, as well as a very good counter to riflemen in the mg42. If your opponent is rushing an M20, he won't have the fuel or the munitions for grenades. Your extra squad also allow you to outcap him whilst the grens can keep his M20 at bay while you wait for your 222.

Fun Fact: Command Light Gammon Bomb has an AoE of 5, 120 damage, and Max (.25) Med (.75) Close (1) damage multipliers, whilst the panzergrenadier bundled grenade has an AoE of 4, 80 damage, and the same AoE damage multipliers. The Commando light gammon is cheaper too.

This is mostly incorrect. A close range Conscripts have 3.4 DPS per model and Grens have 5.9 DPS per model. A Gren squad at point blank range loses to a Con squad because the Con squad has better survability with 6 men, not because the conscript squad has better DPS. When Cons are upgraded with PPSH and thus have 9.6 DPS at close range they can lose several more models in closing and still win be it at Vet 0 or Vet 3.

"Currently the only reason conscripts can beat grenadiers is because of the fact that they have more men. At close range, a grenadier model has higher DPS than conscripts DPS by quite an amount."

^L2R

And we can't really talk about PPSHs here. They are a doctrinal upgrade, not something you will see every match. It would be like me saying that grens are great flanking units because they have G43s.

The big issue becomes when later on in the game you are dealing with squad wipes from explosives as Ostheer because of your smaller squad sizes, AND now you have to deal with the fact your squads are also more fragile to small arms.

And as I said, grens can use a 5th man, but will need an overall DPS decrease across the squad to keep the current early game dynamics.

Since we are making all the loiter abilities into two planes, why don't we slightly nerf damage, and give the loiter two planes. Then it will be more of an area ability.

it is not enough that the AEC is good for its price. The british need a good light tank hunter.

With the PIAT as inaccurate as it is and the british lack of reliable tank snare, they need to use the AEC (or the bofor) as flank protection.


Right now the AEC is a dead end investment that become useless as soon as the first ostwind or pziv hit the field.

If you can get your AEC to vet 1, you will have an amazing support unit. They are very potent against enemies that go deep for whatever reason, as they can disable their movement so your vehicles can reposition. It is also a very potent against any light vehices, so vet 1 is fairly easy to get.

You don't need the AEC if there are no enemy light vehicles, so just don't tech for it unless you need it.