Profile of Brachiaraidos

Absolutely not, not without a massive overhaul of the entire fraction. Stick them into linear tiers, slow down their teching, bump up the arrival time of all their vehicles and call them Ostheer #2.BetterThan1.

OKW are allowed so much alarmingly powerful and early crap under the already tenuous excuse of 'oh but they're fuel starved'. Which is already used to very suspect purposes around on the forums, but I digress.

Yes, OKW have a relatively large MP availability because they don't buy a lot of tanks. And yet, they're not suffering in the win rate department. No faction in the game has such a huge tendency towards MP float and yet suffers absolutely nothing for it. Probably something to do with their T0 having a core infantry unit that has heavy AT, AT guns, builders with universal 30muni mines and some of the best commander units in the game.

They were designed expressly to have a small number of tanks but for them to be very well supported. To the point that OKW infantry is obscenely good at its job. They've already toned down the muni penalty they used to have (which is an indirect fuel availability buff if you plan on converting). OKW hurt for absolutely nothing. Not AI, not AT, not artillery. All they don't have is a flamer for burning houses, because getting units out of buildings is easy as piss when you can use T0 assault rifles into 10 muni nade spam building wrecking.


If you want OKW to be able to circumvent their fuel penalty the faction must be re-designed to allow for it. Shrecks are going to have to go from volks, for a start, to be replaced with a faust ability (at vet 1 probably. Lolmurrica). Tiering costs are going to have to go up, because their Tech is inordinately cheap if you start letting them have more fuel. Etc. etc.

To bad if your spending muni on nades your not getting that AT. The veterancy they get is what makes up for them being worse at the early game. But your discounting the fact they have less models than conscripts so if they lose one they are at a bigger disadvantage.

If your relying on Volks for your AI, you going to lose.

Never said you should use them alone, never said nade spam was a good idea. Just that they have a good nade and can upgrade with heavy AT and come in as a cheaper squad than cons with more levels of vet. All of which, frankly, make them better than conscripts.

And yes, they do have one less model than cons. But they win the long range engagement (where all fights begin, unless blindsided around a corner), which translates into a close range advantage because you start on the upper hand.

And also conscripts are utterly unique for basic infantry in that they have a recieved accuracy penalty right out of the bat. Bullets that would otherwise miss them magically gravitate to their fleshy skulls. Volks do not.

For 5 mp cheaper they are every bit as good as conscripts out of the gate. Only unlike conscripts they scale into the late game well.

My point was and is stop trying to cry pity tears for your poor volksgrenadiers when they're the one of best mainline infantry in the entire game.

Volks are fairly underwhelming early game thanks to their poor DPS and one less model than cons.

Jesus Christ will you stop talking about volks as if they're somehow incapable at fighting infantry.

http://www.coh2-stats.com/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&squad1=volksgrenadier_squad_mp&squad2=conscript_squad_mp&commit=Compare

Even at point blank cons barely have more DPS, and they have a huge advantage at long range. Ergo, stick in cover and force cons to advance, and watch as you win the firefight.

Volks. Are. Not. Weak.

They are the most under costed units in the game with reliable nades, readily available AT, cover building and some of the best, most easily obtained veterancy going. Plus cold immunity, for some reason.

FailFish. By tested i don't mean "We" i mean you know, the testers. (Not me by the way). We actually had this in the live game. And it was terrible.

Never forget the days of sniper scout car spam followed by MG42 spam countered by maxim spam.


Never forget

Hell! a single MG even...

Luckily, the maxim can only pin one squad.

And yes, it's 3's or 4's only. I meatshield my ally OKW and his sturm officer. Ostruppen with double buffs actually hit things.


It's a fun build, not a nail grindingly competitive one. It's axis, I can afford to be casual in ways my allied builds never can