Thread: Comet3 Mar 2018, 05:56 AM
your argument was based off a poor comparison, ignoring the difference in economic involved in between the comet vs panther and t-70 vs puma.
The difference is literally 10 manpower and 10 fuel on both units.
My argument was based of the stats of the actual tank. You latched on to a comparison regarding the role of the tanks I made because you wanted to circle jerk about semantics. Explain to me why you think the comet is overpriced using the stats of the tank. Don't forget it has the armor of a tiger, the penetration of a tank destroyer, the speed of a light tank, abilities that let it frontally wipe AT guns, the size of a medium, and an actual main gun for shooting infantry. |
I know Α_Ε, I am a subscriber of your YT channel for years and also a follower on your Twitch channel but when I read " a huge announcement for the FUTURE of COH 2", sorry but I expect more than a tournament which I only can watch and not be a part of (something that i can experience for my self).
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Thread: Comet2 Mar 2018, 17:50 PM
it was a comparison between a more expensive unit against its intended cheaper prey. The comet is not a cheaper unit to the panther currently and thus a 1 to 1 comparison is not valid.
and "squad wiping" is not the only metric of how good a unit is against infantry. There are still level of effectiveness between "squad wiping" and "trickle them with rubber bullet".
Is the panther's mg effective against infantry, yes or no? effectiveness is not 1 or 0.
and anecdotal evidence with the panther is not really helpful. Maybe I've wiped a few squad with panther while base raping.
So basically you're just going to ignore every argument I've said in the last few posts and argue semantics.
Not going to bother. I've made my case.
Well, being devils advocate for a moment here, you did paid for pintle on stug for years and it did literally nothing more then nice sound.
It's buffed now |
Thread: Comet2 Mar 2018, 05:35 AM
Then puma vs t-70 wasn't an accurate comparison, and should not have been brought up.
It was a perfectly valid comparrison that other people understood, you just refuse to.
The current wehr panther have gotten a buff to both its reload time and its machine, making it a more well rounded unit overall if still leaning into anti-tank. (The comet and panther both also got a pop nerf to 18 so that they are even).
If panther is to be truly committed to the idea of being an anti-tank specialist, then lose the mg buff. If the mg is really so inconsequential then nerfing it back shouldn't be an issue.
You realize you pay for the pintle mg, right?
Are you honestly getting squad wiped by the Panther? |
Gotta love that lategame OKW popcap. |
Maybe I'm weird and want a controversial game that show the questions of morality and brutality of both during the war.
It's called Company of Heroes, not Company of War Criminals. |
Thread: Comet1 Mar 2018, 20:32 PM
it is appropriate that you used the example of t-70 vs puma, because it highlight one of the fundamental flaw of your argument: cost. (the US stuart is also cheaper than both. AEC is cheaper than the okw for sure.)
the t-70 is cheaper than both the wehr puma and the okw puma, unlike the Comet which is more expensive than either the wehr panther or the OKW panther.
if you are sincere with your comparison of t-70 vs puma, then perhaps the comet should be cheaper than the panther?
I was comparing their roles, not their performance.
The comet has better performance than the Panther when you consider all the factors, not just straight AT performance. Cost is justified. |
Thread: Comet28 Feb 2018, 08:12 AM
Comet sacrifice AT power for AI power in comparison to the panther. That is a clear intention. The question is the trade in value.
The comet isn't sacrificing anything. It's still got about the same penetration as a Stug, more than any other medium tank in the game. The Panther is a tank hunter, it's not even in the same league as the comet. It's like complaining that the puma beats the t-70. The Panther is intended to counter it. The comet already rapes any other tank, you don't need to buff the AT. |
Thread: Comet27 Feb 2018, 20:23 PM
a label is useless without a definition behind it.
the jp4, su85, jackson, and Firefly are all useless against infantry. They lack the maneuverability to crush infantry (there's a reason why the m10's rotation rate got nerfed), their gun lack AOE, and lack mg ( firefly have one weak coaxial).
The old wehr panther would have been a tank hunter/destroyer as its mg before their mg was buffed.
And the mgs are important. Both the panzer 4 and t34 have mgs to supplement their main gun.
The comet (and cromwell)'s main gun had probably the best scatter in the game, but no longer. It makes a big difference in how well they kill infantry.
It's a tank hunter. It's well armored and mobile, and designed to hardcounter tanks.
You way overstate the usefulness of the machine guns. Get in light cover and the dps is cut in half. If it's hurting you too much retreat and get that sweet -60% accuracy. If you get in cover versus a comet you just increase the chances of getting wiped. That's the thing about the AI difference, you will never ever wipe something with the panther unless the opponent is braindead. The comet will rng wipe squads all the time, like any other AI tank it forces opponents to leave cover or die. Then you have the white phosphorous to counter AT guns and set up for more wipes, and the grenades. Comet is obviously a generalist tank. It is good at both AI and AT. The tank hunter happens to be better at AT, that's not a balance problem. |
There's a few others like this.
Good luck getting the call-in irregulars achievement.
I don't think Relic cares enough to fix this. |