Profile of Antilles950

I've played 166 1v1s as OKW (granted that I haven't played them in about a month or so) and 200+ 2v2s as OKW. Last time I checked my 1v1 ranking for OKW was about 500, before the leaderboard started hiding ranks after 2 weeks.

Its a mix of both individual skill and minor issues. I can't see non-doc MGs combined with T0 AT from raketens and schrek Volks being a balanced combo tbh. Or if a non-doc MG was added to OKW, USF would HAVE TO receive a mortar in T0.

Why would a t0 mg be imbalanced? Ostheer already has this, and it's not imbalanced. Further, it's already a doctrinal option at 1 cp so it's clearly not imbalanced now. The only thing would change if MG's are not doctrinal is that players don't have to choose between call in infantry and mgs.

Why would this necessitate a t0 mortar? USF can already handle OST which has a t0 mg, and there's no major imbalance in that matchup. I would recommend giving OKW a try at this point.

Learn to use the kubelwagon effectively.

Simple as that.

Kubelwagons don't scale into the late game. Maybe if you read the post and the arguments, you'd understand my point of view.

Consider what OKW units can suppress:

-Kubel
-Flaktrack
-Luchs (if vet5)
-T3's gun
-ISG

That makes OKW not only the most non-doc units capable of suppressing but they re all spread in different tiers. And that's not counting doctrinal units: MG34, flak emplacement, bunker,

Of all the factions, OKW has the most suppression options, and without having to choose doctrines. There is no lack of suppression as OP claims, and that is ignoring the fact that he doesn't care if the repercussions bring about more imbalance.

Options:

1. The kubel rarely lasts past 5 minutes; mid to lategame, it gets basically 1 shotted. Even if it does, it's generally not worth the huge amount of micro it takes to keep it useful.
2. Good luck getting a vet 5 luchs or obers. That's not a reliable source of suppression, and it isn't AOE, and neither of those units are designed specifically as a suppression platform.
3. None of those of options have the combination of being mobile, scalable, and the AOE of an actual mg unit.
4. I addressed the flak track above. It just isn't a viable unit right now, and regardless, it tends to become useless in the lategame as well (although it is more scalable than a kubel).

OKW might have the most options, but none of them are as useful as a mg. There clearly is a lack of suppression, and it seems that you haven't played enough 1s to see where the problem exists.

There's also no reason to assume there's going to be huge balance problems; this argument isn't substatial. The MG34 is already in the game, and it comes with falls. At the point where the combo of falls + mgs isn't unbalanced, then there's no reason mgs would be unbalanced outside of a doctrine. If you want to make this claim, and than explain where balance issues would arise from. It's a straw man argument to claim that I don't care about balance, when the first thing I address is the fact that OKW is underperforming.

Disagreed no more faction mirroring

I think that factional mirroring is necessary for core mechanics, and suppression is one of those mechanics. This game relies on suppression as being a tool that players can use to force other players to use positioning, cover and flanking as tactics to win.

Simply said, OKW is the weakest faction in 1s and 2s. I say this from experience, and this is supported from stats from coh2chart.com . I think a major part of this has to do with the lack of non-doctrinal suppression platform and inability to hold early game territory, especially against USF. Volks will universally lose against rifles/infantry sections in a 1v1 scenario, and kubels/sturms can be whittled fast. Even against cons, volks will usually lose.

In every game, OKW is usually making a choice between MGs and call in infantry (which are usually a necessity considering how weak volks are and how cost-inefficient obers tend to be). This even more problematic with the OKW flaktrack bug where it automatically gets engine crit below 50% health, and the fact that due to recent patches, literally every allied faction has a very early unit that makes this unit virtually useless (AEC, All SU t3, stuart/AAHT).

Without effective suppression unit, matches against okw encourage bad/unfun tactics in the form of blobbing by allies, and makes the OKW early/mid game extremely difficult.

My suggestion: move the MG34 from doctrines to the HQ, and replace them in the doctrines with the kubel, with a buff to the kubel since it becomes a doctrinal unit.

I don't care if you support this specific proposal (I'm not sure if a kubel in doctrine is good; maybe some other ability or unit would be better); if you think OKW should have a non doctrinal MG, you should sign in support.