I micro by using 2 panzer IV's supported by paks. If its not an ISU, it backs off. If i have an elefant, it never comes back. If i have a Tiger along with my panzer IV's and stugs, i keep an advantage. Panzerschrecks are there to piss soviet tanks off.
All defensively,and all mostly viable in 1 vs 1 only. |
Wtf is wrong with you? Tank on tanks? Ever hear of COMBINED ARMS? Pak 40's, teller mines, and panzerschrecks? Only a fool uses tanks to combat other tanks only. Panzer IV is perfect for that. Combined arms, that is. Use BOTH tier 2 and 3.
Yeah,yeah always stay on the defensive..desperately hold back soviet armor wave.U think u can push with paks?U think people actually build more than 1 shrecks pzgrens that die to 2 shots.U can hold out with paks,shrecks and pz 4s defensively for a while if ur placement is good .Ur never going to push with it..for that u need tanks.
Tiger was the tank that could push..the last german tank that could do that.Try pushing with ur pz 4s vs 85s,shermans,is-2 and 152. |
And German Tier 3 is 100% viable.
Oh wait. I micro my tanks.
When did i say its not viable..just that it can't compete with soviet late game.This is the truth.Tell me how u micro vs t-34/85s,shermans,is-2 and isus.U might get a flank in on su-85s if he's careless.
I have no problem with tiger being toned down as long as soviet armour is toned down too ..so germans can compete late game without tiger.Right now without tiger they can't.U take that away..ostheer is finished armourwise.This is not whining..just the meta. |
What Tiger nerf. Please link me your source. By the way, the Panther isn't useless. The players using it are, but the tank isn't.
Panzer 4 is fine, finally much more in line with T-34/76. It can kill armour and infantry fine. Stugs are awesome in this Patch as well. Panther needs slight adjustments maybe but it is far from useless. Ele great as well.
Please post your player card as well.
Well thats what many people are saying...not officially ofc.
Pz 4 maybe fine even with shitty scatter but its not an option vs medium call ins or soviet heavies.Only tiger can do that.Pnather used to till it was nerfed into oblivion to the point no one bothers to build it anymore let alone use it. |
So the best choice is making the Tiger the best tank, much better than its same-priced counterpart?
And German Tier 3 is 100% viable. German tier 4 is the one that sucks. Pz IV can compete the entire game, you must have mistaken the t34. A well microed ostwind can harrass infantry, and a stug is still fairly decent for its price and efficiency.
Oh wait. I micro my tanks.
Tell me how pz 4s can compete with is-2,su-85s,isu and sherman/t-34/85s.There is only 1 german tank left that could do that-tiger.Nerfing tiger does nothing if u also don't nerf t-34/85,sherman and make panther viable.On top of that is-2 will be buffed to now beat every german tank it seems.Alone nerfing tiger just kills the last ostheer tank that was able to make a fightback. |
Where are people getting all this crap from about buffs and nerfs?
German whiners are getting a little annoying. Germans have had superior armour for pretty much the entire game, finally we are getting more balanced armour and all you can do is cry.... Much L2P needed I suspect.
Haha, what balanced armour?
With tiger nerf..there is no ostheer armour left to balance. |
I just checked the video, Volksgrenadiers were 7 pop cap.
Ah thanks.I was asking coz they are OKW AT infantry and will have to remain till lategame,small upkeep is necessary thus.Especially with OKW super tanks. |
Dare I whisper it... German players need to micro their armour now.
What micro?Do u think t-34/85 and sherman swarming needs micro....lol.
You think isu-152 needs micro..lol.
And now it seems is-2 can solo everything with buff and tiger nerf. |
The Tiger can solo any unit. KV-2 has even less means to be made, i see, so now it is a 100% poor choice.
As for volksgrenadiers, i did not catch their popcap or price. The video isnt up anymore.
So what's the alternative to tiger?None.
Germans have 3 tanks.
pz4 can't compete after mid early late game.Not with call ins and heavies.Can't even kill inf.
Panther is useless pricey.
Tiger last tank standing....take that out and u might as well say ostheer needs no lategame.
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So tiger nerfed,panther finished.
What are we to fight t-34/85s,shermans,su-85,kv-2,is-2 and isu-152s with?
Panzer 4s?
Just nerf the grenadiers and end the ostheer once and for all. |
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