To me it seems u didn’t considering u said 90 mun upgrade should be the same as the 50 mun
Btw again compare them to green if u feels cons are too up , they are pretty much the same
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28 Aug 2019, 16:59 PM
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28 Aug 2019, 17:03 PM
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To me it seems u didn’t considering u said 90 mun upgrade should be the same as the 50 mun
That's not at all what I said. But again, you need to make stuff up....
YOU were the one who compared the 7 man upgrade to fusiliers. All I did was point out that 7 man cons needed t4
If you have to make stuff up and make ad hominems, then you dont have an argument. Move on, and get over it
28 Aug 2019, 17:09 PM
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I didn’t compare the 2, I simply said that the 90 mun upgrade is a fusion of the g43 and the cons upgrade, but weaker then the 2 combined as it deals less damage and does not have all the perks ,it’s u who started saying they scale better so the cost is justified but obv missed that USF and ukf can do the same to their base inf by just doubling up
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28 Aug 2019, 17:13 PM
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I didnt miss anything I have explained my argument on those exact points multiple times
28 Aug 2019, 17:25 PM
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Let’s make this clear:
Volks vs rifle was unbalanced cause volks trades evenly at long range lost at all other ranges , even tho rifle have better vet and upgrades (or as u call scaling)
So let’s compare gren vs pfusi (as u can’t toych the poor cons) they are even at long range but lose at close and mid range (like volks vs rifle) have similar vet (so even worse than rifle vs volks) cost less (so even worse than rifle and volks ) and scale a bit better (so still worse than volks vs rifle)
Useless u are saying that gren are op or don’t know osther (by u said u played them the most) pfusi are clearly u underperforming
Volks vs rifle was unbalanced cause volks trades evenly at long range lost at all other ranges , even tho rifle have better vet and upgrades (or as u call scaling)
So let’s compare gren vs pfusi (as u can’t toych the poor cons) they are even at long range but lose at close and mid range (like volks vs rifle) have similar vet (so even worse than rifle vs volks) cost less (so even worse than rifle and volks ) and scale a bit better (so still worse than volks vs rifle)
Useless u are saying that gren are op or don’t know osther (by u said u played them the most) pfusi are clearly u underperforming
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28 Aug 2019, 17:29 PM
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If you would stop looking at every balance discussion as a dps chart, you would remember that fussies start with 5 men and can upgrade to 6. But no mention of that when comparing to 4 men grens?
If you think I dont understand Ost, what does that make somebody who doesn't even mention the survivability difference between 4 and 6 man squads?
Just stop trying
If you think I dont understand Ost, what does that make somebody who doesn't even mention the survivability difference between 4 and 6 man squads?
Just stop trying
28 Aug 2019, 17:42 PM
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what an hypocrite , gren can upgrade to 1 more men with doc or lmg (like u do to pick fusi u need a doc)
btw u shot down every comparison i made, volks vs pfusi ? nop they don't ahve same upgrades cmes with snare and have better vet , rifle vs fusi ? nope they don't have snare , cons vs pfusi ? nope they have a less expensive upgrade, green vs pfusi ? nope they have 1 less men
where were u when people compared volks to rifle calling them op instead of saying that they have better vet and scale better thanks to upgrade (like u doing now) ? oh u were calling for nerf to volks and buff to rifle ?
well i guess hypocrite never change
btw u shot down every comparison i made, volks vs pfusi ? nop they don't ahve same upgrades cmes with snare and have better vet , rifle vs fusi ? nope they don't have snare , cons vs pfusi ? nope they have a less expensive upgrade, green vs pfusi ? nope they have 1 less men
where were u when people compared volks to rifle calling them op instead of saying that they have better vet and scale better thanks to upgrade (like u doing now) ? oh u were calling for nerf to volks and buff to rifle ?
well i guess hypocrite never change
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28 Aug 2019, 17:42 PM
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I think pfs should be similar to penals power lvl in the early game. They cost the same (300mp vs 280+~27mp and 90 muni) and have similar scaling (penals are slightly better in combat, pfs have more utility). So give them starting 6men,improve their weapon profile (idk why their k98 is so bad) and increase cost to 300mp.
28 Aug 2019, 17:47 PM
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what an hypocrite , gren can upgrade to 1 more men with doc or lmg (like u do to pick fusi u need a doc)
And? G43 fussies are much better than 5 man grens...
28 Aug 2019, 17:50 PM
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cause ti's more xpensive ? why do 2 bar beat g 43 ? why do 2 bren beat lmg 42 ? cause they cost more , unless u want to nerf IS and rifle to justify the cost
And? G43 fussies are much better than 5 man grens...
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28 Aug 2019, 17:51 PM
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unless u want to nerf IS and rifle to justify the cost
They already cost more. You dont spend any fuel on side-techs to upgrade your fusiliers, so stop comparing them to squads that do
If you actually played both sides you might have a real understanding of side-techs
28 Aug 2019, 17:53 PM
#152
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u can get the piat and better bren from doc without spending fuel on upgrades
They already cost more. You dont spend any fuel on side-techs to upgrade your fusiliers, so stop comparing them to squads that do
If you actually played both sides you might have a real understanding of side-techs
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28 Aug 2019, 17:57 PM
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u can get the piat and bren form doc without spending fuel on upgrades
You mean piat and vickers-K. Which requires spending MORE fuel on an HT instead...
And it doesnt get you bolster
28 Aug 2019, 17:59 PM
#154
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the truck can heal and reinforce, don't cherry pick as u always do
You mean piat and vickers-K. Which requires spending fuel on an HT instead...
And it doesnt get you bolster
and u don't get 6 g43, unless u can't put 2 piat or 2 vicker on the same unit
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28 Aug 2019, 18:02 PM
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the truck can heal and reinforce, don't cherry pick as u always do
What are you talking about? Of course it can, but 1000% irrelevant to the point....
Tommies and rifles cost more to upgrade, you are wrong to say otherwise
I'm not the one making shit up....
and u don't get 6 g43, unless u can't put 2 piat or 2 vicker on the same unit
Huh?
28 Aug 2019, 18:07 PM
#156
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same as always u change the argument when u are wrong
What are you talking about? Of course it can, but 1000% irrelevant to the point....
Tommies and rifles cost more to upgrade, you are wrong to say otherwise
no need to run away, u pay for a half truck it self and the ability to give weapons to everyone, u can get vickers and piat for cheap and double them up
Another free upgrade ? assault section again doctrinal no fuel cost
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28 Aug 2019, 18:08 PM
#157
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how many vicker do u get ? 1 or 2 x squad ? unless u can't count
Huh?
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28 Aug 2019, 18:08 PM
#158
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same as always u change the argument when u are wrong
Okay buddy, good luck with your delusions
Try playing both sides for once
28 Aug 2019, 18:09 PM
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so u are saying having at nades means costing 30 more mp from base ?
Idk
Say conscripts, what does unlocking a snare cost?
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28 Aug 2019, 18:11 PM
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i do play,i don't have bias glassed unlike u, i sometimes even have to pick the slack form u guys
Okay buddy, good luck with your delusions
Try playing both sides for once
and defend units from axis fan boy like in the ukf thread
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