Thoughts on OKWs Flak Half Track

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2019, 20:37 PMDerKuhlmann

Flack halftrac damage and suppresion is worse than a maxim at vet 0

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2019, 20:45 PMKatitof

Have you tried shooting it at infantry yet?

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2019, 19:16 PMSupport Sapper

I got your point. But with the new patch which just come live, i thing we can both be happy and move on. You have more mean to counter bofor with new rak. I have reliable suppression with the new bofor without deleting squad.

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2019, 21:12 PMDerKuhlmann

I watched a guy on twitch use it.

It tickled infantry while never suppresing infantry to red status on flat ground, no cover.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 09:49 AMBalanced_Gamer

It is pretty much what it does that whole time.

The patch changes, there is still no real reason why it should even be used since it is still such an underwhelming unit.

There is really no real improvements made on the FHT. Costs wont change the incentive, it is performance.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 19:13 PMpvtgooner

It's fine. It does its job and has a place in team games. I've had them used against me well in 1v1s too. They certainly don't just "tickle" infantry and the suppression works quite well.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 19:19 PMblvckdream

He is obsessed with it for some reason. After the small adjustments the Flak HT got, it's perfectly fine. It can wreak havoc on USF LT and Soviet T1 builds because without AT gun it's almost impossible to counter if microed right. It's not a unit that works in every game but in the right situation it can dominate so much that it wins you the game.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 19:19 PMblvckdream

He is obsessed with it for some reason.

Jump back to quoted post14 Sep 2019, 15:37 PMT.R. Stormjäger

I think the flak halftruck suffers from battlegroup HQ being weaker. If I had to rebalance the okw tiers a bit I’d put the stuka HT on Battlegroup, IR HT on Schwerer HQ and the 250 HT from Ostheer on the mechanized HQ. Stuka and HT would be a nice combo.

Jump back to quoted post15 Sep 2019, 00:25 AMdistrofio

OKW design is around poor combined arms strategies, at least until midgame. Since most OKW units tend to be really good at one specific task, the only possible weakness to stop it from being stupid OP is a bad synergy between its units.

Because of that i disagree. WStuka must be locked behind a more risky and expensive tier, because it fights very effectively static gameplay, allied team weapons have almost no chance against it and in teamgames they can exploit their teammates pushing the frontlines meanwhile stukas deal with ATG, HMGs and infantry squads that are numerous at that time frame.

I do like IRHT on schwerer though, if not reworking IRHT at all. BGHQ promotes a lot of stationary gameplay by itself, pairing it with stukas means you have the perfect tool to deal with the same playstile you promote. A 250 on MechHQ will require serious volks nerfs and will make doctrinal Opel blitz useless, because a mobile reinforce platform for a cost effective troop as volks means steamrolling over allies and thast truly OP.

Jump back to quoted post13 Sep 2019, 19:19 PMblvckdream

He is obsessed with it for some reason. After the small adjustments the Flak HT got, it's perfectly fine. It can wreak havoc on USF LT and Soviet T1 builds because without AT gun it's almost impossible to counter if microed right. It's not a unit that works in every game but in the right situation it can dominate so much that it wins you the game.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 10:30 AMBalanced_Gamer

How am I obsessed?

I am addressing an issue, an issue which I find very annoying since it is problematic.

You think that its alright, why not try using it every game instead.

Against Soviet T1, are you joking. It is not great against them, it is terrible. That is a shit point you have made.

Here is why. Get a M3A1 Scour Car with Penals AT on top, it kills already the FHT. Easy counter.


Another shit point you have made is T1 LT. Get a STUART which is great, m20 which can destory FHT or get zooks. Easy counter FHT.

It is not impossible, it is possible to counter FHT easily.

Stop making shitty points and actually start using it.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 10:41 AMblvckdream

Oh please. The FHT has literally won me so many games on its own against Soviet T1 builds. You just don't know how to use it right. It's rude but it really is a L2P issue.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 10:46 AMBalanced_Gamer

That is obviously an overstatement for anyone who has actually been playing COH2.

It is crap, that is a fact.

The only usage FHT is ever viable is team games. 1v1 always ends bad unless you are up against a bad player which I suppose that is how you won your many games with it.

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 10:59 AMblvckdream

It's a fact because you said so? And why are you trying to lecture about bad players? Your OKW ranks are all 1000+
apart from 1v1 where you are around 350.

Next time I use FHT I send you a replay so you can learn something ok?

Jump back to quoted post16 Sep 2019, 11:00 AMBalanced_Gamer

I have watched replays.

One replay wont help change that.