USA September patch discussion

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 04:08 AMLoopDloop

That's what double BARs are for though. IMO rifles are some of the best mainlines in the lategame with the investment and the veterancy (but you have to keep them alive lol), and they don't really need help there, especially with excellent sherman HE and good indirect fire options to boot.

They're getting better DPS at mid range in order to make it so that they actually trade well when they're at ideal ranges, and not just barely win out in ideal scenarios (barely because dropping 3 volk models and losing 2 rifle models isn't that great of a trade considering they're more expensive to reinforce and volks will beat rifles pretty handily at long range as they should, and OKW's got a sturmpio out there to trade really well while USF has an RE which can't trade with anything). It's not even going to change point blank engagements anyway if you check the curve too, just more the 6-15 range where they're theoretically supposed to shine and justify that 28 manpower reinforce cost.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 03:41 AMMazianni

I think it's a great change for making USF a bit less shaky in the early game versus OKW. I honestly doubt it'll have much weight beyond that, given long range DPS is totally unchanged, but its significant enough in that context alone.

Plus USF is going to need more early game power now that all their late-game indirect fire units got nerfed lol.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 03:40 AMmrgame2

Rifles have best moving accruacy and good vet bonus.
Imo this buff serious destroy ost infantry and support weapon play. Seems like rifles will become sturm like against grens and mg42 mortars..

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 09:04 AMmrgame2

I disagree. Allies already have it easier to destroy/decrew lefh than axis, it shouldn't be make easier to invalidate lefh

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 09:57 AMgbem

Stuka divebomb... stuka zu fuss... railway arty... zeroing arty (if u can keep LOS)

Allies have

240mm... il2... TOT... ???

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 10:02 AMmrgame2

Same off map arty plus.

Major arty, brit IS arty, Scott, su85, Jackson, katsuya

Preist calliope commando charge.

From ost pov, i feel it is worst faction to use or counter lefh

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 10:07 AMblvckdream

Paratrooper: Target size from 1.0 to 0.95

Whats up with this stupid change? Paratroopers (especially with LMG) are insanely good already. Why buff them further?

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 06:42 AMmrgame2

I think Jun19 new commander patch dont change meta too much for Ost win rates.

As your stats shown, as i monitor the top 10 ladder on this website.
Ost is worse faction, especially if you dont team up with an OKW player.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 10:12 AMSelvy289

Please read again that this is being pulled from their vet 3 target size reduction.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 09:49 AMkdragoonD

I am mainly thinking about the USF vs OST match up. Since grens can only engage in mid to long range, giving riflemen more mid range dps will make OST's early game against USF even worse. OST is already pretty terrible, and I don't want that faction to be unplayable.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 16:49 PMLoopDloop

Ost should mostly be fighting USF at long range, not mid (mostly except for pgrens, since they'll just body riflemen at mid and close like intended). That's what MG42s are for. There's also sniper to just bleed USF dry too.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 17:10 PMMr.Flush

Lolz, wrong crowd
Sniper takes skillz

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 22:45 PMMazianni

This all reminds me, can we PLEASE finally fix the 0.5 retreat RA on the M2HB? Do I really need to make a thread in the bugs section on it?

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 20:44 PMShadowLinkX37

Can we rework the HEAT barrage on the pak howitzer? It's good when it hits armor, 160 damage I think, but it scatters so it isn't able to hit consistantly. It is a barrage so it's not like you can autofire it all the time at armor. It'd be good to have the ability actually be decent at engaging JTs and Elephants. Slow sturdy targets.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2019, 10:02 AMmrgame2

Same off map arty plus.

Major arty, brit IS arty, Scott, su85, Jackson, katsuya

Preist calliope commando charge.

From ost pov, i feel it is worst faction to use or counter lefh

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2019, 00:09 AMLoopDloop

+1

Making JT and ele counterable though? That's not allowed. Kappa.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2019, 04:56 AMSmiling Tiger

They are both perfectly counterable, it's just harder to flank anything in teamgames where you have multiple armies to fight and ignoring them isn't an option because the other armies will make up for the lack of AI that the Elephant/Jagdtiger has.

I also like how you didn't mention the ISU 152 as if it isn't ever a force to deal with.