The game IS a click fest now

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2013, 21:18 PMherr anfsim

Glad to hear.

Does anyone know why the infantrycombat was altered the way it was? Was this a request by the community or is it simply a result of the new developmentteam having a different philosophy than the team behind vCOH?

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2013, 16:46 PMArray

I recall in a developer thread way back this was discussed. It was explained that they wanted to remove 'hidden knowledge' from the game. For example in vcoh volks v rifles volks would win in cover at range whilst rifles needed to get close in. This was not obvious for someone coming to the game - in fact careful study of dps tables was advisable to play the game even reasonably we'll. in coh2 a new player can immediately see that with cons v grens the trick is to land a grenade or attack with 2 vs 1 or buy an upgrade (Lmg). The low dps of small arms accentuates this mechanic and gives players more time to react. I hesitate to say this on an anti negativity thread but it was a 'dumbing down' in an attempt to broaden appeal. It is probably the only change I really regret in the game.

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2013, 12:27 PMwayward516

I'm sorry I cannot take anyone seriously who compares COH2 to SC2. In terms of micro, ability use, anything.

Calling the game "stupidified" and attempting (incorrectly) attempting to compare COH to SC2 makes the argument or "explanation" to ring false.

If you're going to make an unfavorable comparison, at least ensure it's accurate. The comparison and lack of understanding of SC2 is frankly laughable.

2. I don't see how it's a bad thing that infantry are required to move to stay clear of grenades, aside from COH1 players being upset that it's different from what they've come to expect. Can someone explain this to me?

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2013, 03:55 AMBabaRoga

So basically, COH2 has become stupidified for user and is starting to look a lot like SC2. All we need is Chuck Norris and Rambo superheros that kill everything DLC, to complete the feel.
Most people would love that and I am sure it would sell even better, but old COH players loved COH because it wasn't like that

Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2013, 11:11 AMwayward516

Pretty sure that's a comparison between CoH2 and SC2. You even bolded that sentence in your original post. Have you played SC2? The above quote would seem to imply you haven't.

Also, I'm a big boy. I can take care of myself. Thanks for your concern though.

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2013, 12:24 PMLe Wish

Might have been me overreacting, and it was most likely this...




...I reacted to. Sorry about lashing out.

About me liking CoH2 more. It is very true, and I think it plays better with 2v2 than CoH1, without really knowing why sadly. Aslo not a high level player, something that might play a part in all of this.

About abusive things in CoH2, I do agree that there are alot of things that need to be looked at, and I'm not fond of all hardcounters that make builds stale. However, this is a new game and things are subject to change, unlike CoH1 which is unlikely to recieve any major further patches to iron out what I dislike in that game.

Also, I never claimed that everyone disliked cloak or vet works in CoH1. Just saying that not everyone thinks that all mechanincs in CoH1 were perfect either. In this sense we agree to disagree.

To try to stick to topic and answer if this game is more a clickfest than earlier (and CoH1) I think Blovski put it very good here.

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2013, 16:46 PMArray

I recall in a developer thread way back this was discussed. It was explained that they wanted to remove 'hidden knowledge' from the game. For example in vcoh volks v rifles volks would win in cover at range whilst rifles needed to get close in. This was not obvious for someone coming to the game...