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4 Apr 2019, 22:41 PM
#41
avatar of general_gawain

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Tiger behind all trucks...while all other faction can get their heavy callins free-tech. Makes sense....


Why we don't use this as a chance to change all of the heavy/super heavy late game tanks to call-ins? Binding some of them to structure tech and others to CPs makes no sense, because it causes huge timing problems across game modes and totally screws balance:


I will only show the two extremes, other game modes are somewhere in between:


1vs1: CP locked heavy tank call-in is superior to structure locked heavy tank
4vs4: vice versa because of ressource inflation, king tiger comes way before heavy tank call-in
5 Apr 2019, 00:24 AM
#42
avatar of blancat

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Okw - To call a Tiger need 3 tech structure?
Then, Who use Tiger? All people will build KT

Also tiger skill ability need vet 4
It makes Okw Tiger useless again
Add buff skill in vet 0 or replace to Tiger ace
5 Apr 2019, 01:36 AM
#43
avatar of Dead Bear

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jump backJump back to quoted post4 Apr 2019, 19:43 PMLago


The M10 is a solid tank destroyer against mediums. The Firefly is slow-firing and expensive.


how often u see m10? rarely.. how often u see m36? a lot.. and m10 spam without jump out self repair? no
5 Apr 2019, 01:42 AM
#44
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how often u see m10? rarely.. how often u see m36? a lot.. and m10 spam without jump out self repair? no

Because m10 is limited to a single doctrine and m36 is stock?
5 Apr 2019, 02:29 AM
#45
avatar of SturmTigerVorgo

Posts: 307

How about retreat to Forward Station? will be on or not?
5 Apr 2019, 06:57 AM
#46
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 01:42 AMFarlon

Because m10 is limited to a single doctrine and m36 is stock?


useful doctrine unit are use often. t34 / command pz4 / is2 / kv2 / isu152 / elephant / jt . useless doctrine unit are rarely used puma / m10 / ostwind / hetzer.

m10 only good use at swarm . if u only get 1 its better to get 6 pdr. usf m10 spam maybe useful cause tank crew repair is fast and free. brit couldnt do that while its costly to ability repair. and people would rather get ff instead of m10 spam. i dont see how the m10 help in this commander.
5 Apr 2019, 10:51 AM
#47
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how often u see m10? rarely.. how often u see m36? a lot.. and m10 spam without jump out self repair? no

That simply because M36 is op and not because M10 is UP.
5 Apr 2019, 10:58 AM
#48
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how often u see m10? rarely.. how often u see m36? a lot.. and m10 spam without jump out self repair? no


That's because the M10 is in Armor Company only and is situational.

The M10's a better tank destroyer against medium tanks than the Jackson, and waaay better than the slow-firing Firefly.

If the M10's available, you only get a Jackson or Firefly against heavier armour.
5 Apr 2019, 11:06 AM
#49
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 10:51 AMVipper

That simply because M36 is op and not because M10 is UP.
omg its your 100 post about that jackson is op u are a true warrior i must say
5 Apr 2019, 11:32 AM
#50
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 10:51 AMVipper

That simply because M36 is op and not because M10 is UP.


m10 not have much use if its not spammed. people would rather get crom with 6pdr. if its spammed without crew repair not very nice since ability repair require so much cost. well t3485 are seen often and i rarely see m10. < 10% game i would say
5 Apr 2019, 11:34 AM
#51
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 10:58 AMLago


That's because the M10 is in Armor Company only and is situational.

The M10's a better tank destroyer against medium tanks than the Jackson, and waaay better than the slow-firing Firefly.

If the M10's available, you only get a Jackson or Firefly against heavier armour.


m10 is bad because at this game all round tank are better. thats why t3485 are seen often and m10..not. people may get m10 cause they may not tech t3 at usf. but brit always have 6 pdr and why would i get m10 instead of crom + 6pdr?
5 Apr 2019, 11:47 AM
#52
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m10 not have much use if its not spammed. people would rather get crom with 6pdr. if its spammed without crew repair not very nice since ability repair require so much cost. well t3485 are seen often and i rarely see m10. < 10% game i would say

It allot cheaper than Crom.

That means that one could a fast Centaur and use the M10 to defend it from enemy Tanks. M10 is in the same price range as Su-76 and Stug and compared to them it has turret and superior mobility. It is actually quite good.
5 Apr 2019, 11:57 AM
#53
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 11:47 AMVipper

It allot cheaper than Crom.

That means that one could a fast Centaur and use the M10 to defend it from enemy Tanks. M10 is in the same price range as Su-76 and Stug and compared to them it has turret and superior mobility. It is actually quite good.


30 fuel less is a lot? huh? if u get centaur first the build order should follow up by anti tank gun and when ur anti tank gun on the field u tech to crom / churchill afterward. u better save the fuel for something else.
5 Apr 2019, 13:52 PM
#54
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m10 is bad because at this game all round tank are better. thats why t3485 are seen often and m10..not. people may get m10 cause they may not tech t3 at usf. but brit always have 6 pdr and why would i get m10 instead of crom + 6pdr?


Because the M10 is cheaper, faster and has better penetration.

The Cromwell is just a worse Sherman.
5 Apr 2019, 14:15 PM
#55
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 13:52 PMLago


Because the M10 is cheaper, faster and has better penetration.

The Cromwell is just a worse Sherman.


i doubt ur level .. nvm
5 Apr 2019, 14:28 PM
#56
avatar of Lago

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i doubt ur level .. nvm


It's right there in the game stats. The Cromwell's pretty much a Sherman with no pintle and AP rounds only. It's a passable generalist but probably the worst of the five.

The M10 has more range, better acceleration, better penetration even without its ability, outright better accuracy and reloads faster. If you're buying a tank to fight vehicles, it blows the Cromwell out of the water.

Or would you always get an Easy Eight over a Jackson?
5 Apr 2019, 14:36 PM
#57
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Apr 2019, 14:28 PMLago


It's right there in the game stats. The Cromwell's pretty much a Sherman with no pintle and AP rounds only. It's a passable generalist but probably the worst of the five.

The M10 has more range, better acceleration, better penetration even without its ability, outright better accuracy and reloads faster.


as i said player would choose atg + crom/centaur combo instead of m10 . brit do not lack any sort of at power. i am tired and lets end the discussion.When the mod is out we will know how often the m10 used.
5 Apr 2019, 18:21 PM
#58
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In my opinion the M10 is a good addition for brits. Its better against every tank with lower armor than the panther compared to the firefly. And its moving accuracy is fantastic for chasing down tanks. In addition it has fantastic speed and great utility with the ap rounds. The cheap price allows the brit player to come back after a rough early game or the opportunity to combine it with cromwells or centaurs. Also it fits an agressive playstyle with the thompson tommies.
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