British - Lend Lease Assault - Feedback

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2019, 10:40 AMthedarkarmadillo

Aoe heals might be a bit strong for multiplayer. Having it set up with some mechanics though sorta like the okw mech truck or advanced cancer assembly could be interesting though. Mutually exclusive to the AA package. Give a lot of new options. Perhaps a p47 rocket strafe just to round out the commander.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2019, 14:10 PMPanzerFutz

The simplest way to fix this commander is to give the mortar the Coordinated Barrage flares as a veteran ability. This commander could use the base artillery in a way no other commander can. Practicality and novelty combined.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2019, 13:28 PMTiger Baron

Well if we're going by the numbers Planet
Smasher dug up there's little else to put in the commander besides the Sherman, M8 and Stuart with all of these as far as I see not providing any "unique" alternatives to the stock units.

But maybe if the aura repair is given to the M5 HT a slot can be opened up for RoastingGhost's Stuart since he's the one that originally suggested I think, sadly the commander upgrade for it is glitched a bit .

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2019, 15:06 PMPanzerFutz

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Yes, it would require spotting on the target location and be within the barrage range of the mortar.

I would prefer a separate cool-down from other barrages so, it could add its own fire to the barrage. However, if that seems too much, then it could have a shared cool-down.

A small amount of something is better than a whole lot of nothing.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2019, 12:32 PMWAAAGH2000

Why not bundle Assault section with Royal Engineer flamethrower like OKW assault pack？

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2019, 13:04 PMTiger Baron

It does make sense since the M2 is an American weapon, and it would improve both Mobile Assault and Royal Engineers.

I like it.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2019, 23:06 PMLoopDloop

I'd rather see repair aura and some sort of offmap type ability, as opposed to a unit. Honestly, I liked the idea of smoke raid operation as long as you have some way to repair m10 hordes. Fits really well thematically and it'd be useful for a faction that tends to struggle with assaults.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2019, 11:03 AMTiger Baron

Repair Engineers/Pioneers and Medic spawning out of something which is deployed and can just undeploy and move has been proven as buggy and thus not really feasible, that's why you see aura repairs and heals instead of entities spawning out of the vehicle while deployed.

Anyhow, I again wanna bring up the M7 Priest here to replace the M5 HT by popular demand and add some infographics taken from Planet Smasher's topic on Lend-lease numbers so credits to him: https://www.coh2.org/topic/81304/lend-lease-numbers

Light Vehicles

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
Dodge WC-51 Truck	WC-52	10884	24902
Dodge WC-54 Ambulance		644	0
M20 Utility Car		0	0
M8 "Greyhound" Light Armored Car		496	0
M3A1 Scout Car		6997	3340
M3 Halftrack		2	2
M21 Mortar Motor Carriage		0	0
M15A1 Combined Gun Motor Carriage	M15	0	100
M5A1 Halftrack	M5, M9	5238	420
M17 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage ("M5 Quad")		0	1000

Tanks and Self-Propelled Guns

Model in COH2	Other Models	British Empire	USSR
M5A1 "Stuart" Light Tank	M5	1391	5
M8A1 Howitzer Motor Carriage		0	0
M7B1 "Priest" Howitzer Motor Carriage	M7	832	0
M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank, 75mm Gun		15256	2007
M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank, 76mm Gun		1335	2095
M4 "Sherman" Medium Tank, 105mm Howitzer		593	0
M10 Gun Motor Carriage*****	M10A1	1648	52
M36B2 Gun Motor Carriage*****		0	0
M26 "Pershing" Heavy Tank	T26	6	1

This is just the Light and heavier vehicles but he also has numbers on small arms, support weapons, grenades and mines and Aircraft on there so definitely check it out if you're interesting in that sort of thing like me.

I however only want to note that I've only seen information regarding the M3 Stuart being delivered and used by the British and not M5 version.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2019, 13:37 PMLago

Tbh I think both those abilities are valuable enough to be slots in their own right.

The OKW Assault Package is different because there's not much of a performance boost over the stock upgrade path.

Flamers, however, are a major upgrade for Sappers.



It's already got smoke from the mortar. It was getting a bit smoke overkill.

Crew repair is much more important given the commander's tendency towards lots of <100 FU vehicles.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2019, 13:37 PMLago

Tbh I think both those abilities are valuable enough to be slots in their own right.

The OKW Assault Package is different because there's not much of a performance boost over the stock upgrade path.

Flamers, however, are a major upgrade for Sappers.



It's already got smoke from the mortar. It was getting a bit smoke overkill.

Crew repair is much more important given the commander's tendency towards lots of <100 FU vehicles.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2019, 14:34 PMWAAAGH2000

I think assault sections like IR.stg44,powerful but most time only one squad will upgrade，so it use one commander ability is waste，same as USF and UKF flamethrower upgrade，most time we traning engineer at the most two or three squads，and one of them will upgrade sweeper，so one weapon use one commander ability you don't think it waste？

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2019, 15:06 PMLago

Are Shock Troops wasted if you call in only a single squad? You don't have to spam an ability to make it worthwhile.