I don't know what to do with Stuart

Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2018, 22:14 PMKatitof

Pre nerf stuart could.
Post nerf stuart doesn't beat anything even remotely as expensive as itself.

Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2018, 22:14 PMKatitof

Pre nerf stuart could.
Post nerf stuart doesn't beat anything even remotely as expensive as itself.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 10:29 AMFelixTHM

The only things in that price range are Luchs, an AI tank, and Puma, a light vehicle hunter so neither would be fair comparisons. The Puma also has other weakness, such as having atrocious anti-infantry performance and only 25 armour, so it dies easily to flak, light cannon, and even HMGs, while the Stuart has 80 armour, giving it more than 50% chance to deflect Ostwind shots.

In any case you should look at the pen values of the Ostwind before making such contrarian claims. The Ostwind doesn't even threaten a T70 with its barely 50% pen chance, puny 40 damage, and chance of missing a moving light tank (high speed + small target size + low Ostwind accuracy). A T70 would need to stand still for more than 20 seconds for an Ostwind to be able to kill it.

That's one of the major problems with Ostwind right now - it's really terrible vs Light Tanks, and it can only win (while losing more than half health) if your opponent's light vehicle stops and stands still in a 20+ second face-off.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 16:19 PMKatitof

Pre nerf stuart could contest puma with use of active abilities if it got into range and used that muni,
post nerf stuart is steamrolled by it.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 16:33 PMFelixTHM

Precisely. The Stuart was blatantly OP beyond any reasonable belief and got nerfed down to average levels of performance.

Did it get nerfed too much? Perhaps. Old Stuart wasn't even fathomable from a balance perspective, and was only indirectly counterable by Old Kubels raping USF early game, which gave the old Stuart a very poor timing window.

The new Stuart denies the Luchs of a window of opportunity - timing is a quality in and of itself that isn't represented by stats. We all remember how unplayable Mechanised was when Luchs took 90 seconds to build.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 16:33 PMFelixTHM

Precisely. The Stuart was blatantly OP beyond any reasonable belief and got nerfed down to average levels of performance.

Did it get nerfed too much? Perhaps. Old Stuart wasn't even fathomable from a balance perspective, and was only indirectly counterable by Old Kubels raping USF early game, which gave the old Stuart a very poor timing window.

The new Stuart denies the Luchs of a window of opportunity - timing is a quality in and of itself that isn't represented by stats. We all remember how unplayable Mechanised was when Luchs took 90 seconds to build.