"balancing" discussions are ALL pointless

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 12:43 PMLeOverlord

Then i'm wondering why the majority of the community agrees that some pros are totally toxic.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 18:22 PMJae For Jett

I would honestly debate that fact. Im glad you avoided using absolutes and kept to things like "majority" and "some," but even then I think you're overestimating. I imagine most people would define pro (for 1v1) as gcs2 level players. Even if you loosened up that definition to include gcs2 qualifier players (so the top 32 seeds from the list), I doubt anyone would really call a noticeable number of these players toxic.

Side note: According to completely subjective personal observations, a lot of people who are "anti-pro" are also pretty toxic (just so you know, im not referring to you with this, Overlord).

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 18:22 PMJae For Jett

I would honestly debate that fact. Im glad you avoided using absolutes and kept to things like "majority" and "some," but even then I think you're overestimating. I imagine most people would define pro (for 1v1) as gcs2 level players. Even if you loosened up that definition to include gcs2 qualifier players (so the top 32 seeds from the list), I doubt anyone would really call a noticeable number of these players toxic.

Side note: According to completely subjective personal observations, a lot of people who are "anti-pro" are also pretty toxic (just so you know, im not referring to you with this, Overlord).

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 19:43 PMLeOverlord

Obviously not all of them are toxic. There are certain pro players who are toxic, others might be less toxic and others might be non-toxic at all. I think that most of you know about HelpingHans' rage (happened a long time ago, i wasn't even playing CoH2, nor i knew about the game).

Depends on which way "anti-pros" are toxic. I respect pros for their skill, i will not doubt it for any reason. But attitude and skill are 2 different things. I might like a pro for his skill, but i might don't like him at the same time because of his attitude. Again, my admiration of this skills remains.

PS : I'm toxic, but not in here. I'm toxic where i need to be toxic. And i know it's not a good thing and i must change that.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 20:00 PMJae For Jett

Right, that last point is pretty relevant. Hans isnt really toxic on this forum I think (unless this is something that predates my entry into coh2), mostly its rage on his own stream. Besides that, I can only think of one other "pro" player that people could possibly call toxic. That kind of proportion isnt really out of the ordinary (something like 2/32).

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 19:43 PMLeOverlord

Obviously not all of them are toxic. There are certain pro players who are toxic, others might be less toxic and others might be non-toxic at all.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 22:40 PMLoopDloop

Also, OP: are we ever gonna have that rematch this weekend or not?

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 00:04 AMJae For Jett

Come on, dont do this :/

People should stop resorting to "1v1 me bro." It proves and solves nothing.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 00:42 AMShadowLinkX37

I mean what else is there to do? Everyones voice on this forum can be heard, but whoever screams the loudest is the most heard. It doesn't matter what they say be it biased or non, so long as its above everyone elses. There is also no way of preventing bias in a constructive way either, since all sections are open to all players (except da supa sekret circle of balance bois)

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 00:04 AMJae For Jett

Come on, dont do this :/

People should stop resorting to "1v1 me bro." It proves and solves nothing.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 02:49 AMLoopDloop

Yeah well earlier in the thread he kept talking about how he beat me (while I was meming) and that I need to l2p, conflating an experiment of a dumb strategy (1 riflemen ffs) with me actually trying. So I do want to “1v1 him bro”.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 02:59 AMgbem

Incendiary rounds kept on bragging about how pro he was because he beat loopdloop in a meme match.... hey loop would it be ok if i spectate ur rematch with incendiaryrounds?

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 03:07 AMLoopDloop

Idk how to stream or if we will even have a rematch but I can add you on steam for the spectating thing.

Addendum: if it’s against forum rules to challenge 1v1s in threads like this I’ll stop though. Not tryna get banned.

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2018, 03:21 AMgbem

Hmmm add me on steam and i think you invite to watch?

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2018, 23:46 PMGarrett

The discussions are pointless BECAUSE you look at GCS. 1v1 is a very special game mode and totally different from team games. Every decision you take to balance units in 1v1s (buff Jackson) has a severe impact on team games (now only Jackson spam plus blobbing USF infantry). The problem is that this is not considered. Take for example the upcoming changes to sappers which will get AT nades. At the same time you would need to nerf the at gun's accuracy because the only justification for it being so accurate is because UKF has no at nades. Since they probably wont do that, it will stir up balance quite a bit to a point where I really dont see a reason to build a Luchs anymore...

Jump back to quoted post2 Oct 2018, 19:59 PMTheGentlemenTroll

I'd hardly call Dane a pro, hes a uber axis bias player that cries foul whenever his opponent bests him, usually not blaming himself or saying his opponent beat him. Say something like "The old OKW KT win button was broken and deserved to be nerfed." and he delivers you a perma ban.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2018, 19:43 PMLeOverlord

Obviously not all of them are toxic. There are certain pro players who are toxic, others might be less toxic and others might be non-toxic at all. I think that most of you know about HelpingHans' rage (happened a long time ago, i wasn't even playing CoH2, nor i knew about the game).

Depends on which way "anti-pros" are toxic. I respect pros for their skill, i will not doubt it for any reason. But attitude and skill are 2 different things. I might like a pro for his skill, but i might don't like him at the same time because of his attitude. Again, my admiration of this skills remains.

PS : I'm toxic, but not in here. I'm toxic where i need to be toxic. And i know it's not a good thing and i must change that.