Generalist balance.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 13:16 PMjagd wölfe

Fun fact: some dude in official war thunder forums proved that 1941 t34 and 1942 t34 were so poorly welded that plates could fall off even with 37mm NON pen, devs questioned its theory but the guy proved it, and devs banned him after losing the argument.

The outrage after this happened made them remove king tiger modifier tho ahahah, and later the Maus modifiers were removed as well

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 15:19 PMKirrik

You're in severe wehraboo denial man, this data shows how German uber-guns were actually only uber on paper. Claiming "it's biased" when it was internal document for engineers is hilarious

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 15:26 PMDangerous-Cloth

Lol! That doesn't surprise me at all. They are so freaking biased that it is just funny. Chaika rekting bf109s was funny too lol.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 15:33 PMjagd wölfe

Again, like i said "internal documents for engineers" that report very limited testing of battle worn equipment by foreigners, with no mantainance whatsoever of barrel or shells and without a single word on the condition of the ammo batch, using a criteria that has been ditched because considered inaccurate since cold war, by a blog run by a russian nationalist that fail to actually show proper sources to his readers in the comment section.

But you can't possibly see any issue in this.
Instead every other source but old russian test using a criteria not EVEN MODERN DAY RUSSIA USES are wrong and humanity elected as golden standard for penetration the wrong criteria...obviously...

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 15:37 PMKirrik

What the heck are you talking about, Russian army still uses different penetration standards, you still cant directly compare values between NATO and Russian/Soviet ammo

Furthermore, it not only German AT guns were tested but also British and US, those showed far less pen by Russian criteria... let me guess, Russians used scravenged ammo and terribly worn-down barrels too when they performed these tests?

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 16:01 PMZombiFrancis

That the only Panzer 4 with a stub nose gun is the command p4 or that the 222 scout car is over twice it's actual size or that at guns and artillery are dragged by people and not horses should be indications that this game isn't going for complete accuracy.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 16:14 PMKirrik

120k tanks, is that some alternative facts wehraboos get at Stormfront? I just googled 80k that number and that does not even imply destroyed tanks. Thats number of vehicles out of action for whatever reason, including stuff stuck in mud or detracked.

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 16:28 PMKirrik

These are not number of tanks destroyed, these are of armored vehicles out of action. You can lose same tank several times by having it detracked than towed for repairs, it does not even imply combat loses

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 16:22 PMjagd wölfe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_losses_in_World_War_II

Not to be that guy, but being COMPLETELY UNAWARE of how much vehicles soviet have lost i just googled it and Krivosheev, a russian historian says that 83,500 soviet TANKS, much more being the vehicles.

" "All losses of arms and equipment are counted as irrecoverable losses, i.e. beyond economic repair or no longer serviceable" "

Loxley number is right, what about you actually address points politely instead of hurr durr-ing

Jump back to quoted post20 Sep 2018, 16:35 PMKirrik

I just read source directly, those irrecoverable loses are for human casualties, not tanks.