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I do think the combination of high armor, HP and the ability to lob shells over shot blockers might prove problematic. It can deal damage from safety and will be very hard to kill. Brummbär is already (borderline) OP because of similar traits but that one at least has a low HP pool to balance things out a bit.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Yes, but not all tanks, its penetration clearly stats which tanks its supposed to engage.
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When su-85 can't pen kt and tiger they nerfed it. Now the same thing happens with kv-2 and you are defending it for some reason.
It's not like panther is an effective counter either.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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By the same logic the 45mm is supposed to inflict heavy damage on elefants and tiger, because its an AT gun?
Why is there an elefant or Jadgtiger if all you need would be JP4s to engage all tanks effectively?
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What are you even talking about?
Are 45mm and tigers even on the same tier?
While you are able to counter tigers/kts with jackson and su-85, croc with jp4, pershing with stuG are you not supposed to counter kv-2 with another medium dt as well?
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KV-2 and Pershing have exactly the same armor.
You have just invalidated your very own argument here.
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I said that either sturm or panzergrens would be ignored because one of the two would be inevitably better at covering pretty much the same role.
Somehow that turned to "Sturm would be useless and specifically because they are weak"...WOW
You are just further digging the hole trying for strawmans but the truth is...you were looking for someone to jump on and decided to completely ignore 80% of the post and completely modify the meaning of the remaining 20%, or you are dense and you couldn't actually understand it, but either way i'm done, seek for a brawl with ullumullu instead, this thread is for the balance patch.
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Wrong, KT armor was 425 before being nerfed
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Check how many years ago.
Completely irrelevant for anything that happened within last 2-3 patches.
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wasnt the pene from jp4 lowerd by a patch? why exactly?
they nerfed its camo, speed, view, and even the penetration. im ok with camo and so on...but nerfing pene was over the top. it should give the chance to deal with high armor about long range.
dealing with allie mediums isnt even easy while to its turretless design and fast flanking mediums from allies.
panther is indeed the only chioce actually...it hasent the range...but can deal a lil bit with infantery and have good life/ armor pool to get dmg to armor.
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