USF needs more AT options.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2018, 18:34 PMCODGUY

I still cannot get over the hilarious reasoning for lowering the munitions cost of double schreks for panzergrens. They claimed it was because Wehrmacht didn't have enough AT options LMFAO! But anyway, the reality is USF is the one that doesn't have enough AT options largely due to having to choose between AT guns and MGs. Really the best thing to do here is to just get rid of the stupid side teching and get rid of the weapon rack upgrade entirely and just tie it LT and/or CPT upgrades.

Jump back to quoted post18 Aug 2018, 19:52 PMShadowLinkX37

Was there even an arguement about lacking AT in the paragraph? Like I see: ostheer has plenty of AT options, schrecks OP, USF teching sucks, merge weapon racks with LT or CPT. Like there isn’t even an argument for AT in this thread

Like make a suggestion for AT options instead of just complaining in a new thread every day. And by suggestions, I mean one where it actually has some remote balance to it instead of “give weapon rax for free so I can spam rifles and overrun my opponent with no tactical strategy”.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2018, 04:33 AMLeOverlord

But i guess that spamming MGs and Bunkers as Wehrmacht is a tactical strategy

• Every USF infantry squad can be turned into an AT squad. REs are a very efficient option. If you use Riflemen you get an AT squad with snares.
  
• The .50 cal has Vet 0 AP ammo.
  
• The Utility Car drops teller mines and its crew has a bazooka.
  
• The AAHT's gun is armor-piercing and it beats 222s in a 1v1.
  
• The Captain can upgrade to a bazooka without the unlock.
  
• The M1 AT gun is an AT gun.
  
• The Stuart beats the Puma if it uses Shell Shock.
  
• The Sherman is a medium tank.
  
• The Jackson is one of the best tank destroyers in the game.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2018, 13:53 PMLago

USF struggles with many things, but AT is not one of them.

Pack Howitzer, Mortar, Ambulance, M8 Scott. These are the only four units in the USF nondoctrinal lineup that can't fill an AT role.

• Every USF infantry squad can be turned into an AT squad. REs are a very efficient option. If you use Riflemen you get an AT squad with snares.
  
• The .50 cal has Vet 0 AP ammo.
  
• The Utility Car drops teller mines and its crew has a bazooka.
  
• The AAHT's gun is armor-piercing and it beats 222s in a 1v1.
  
• The Captain can upgrade to a bazooka without the unlock.
  
• The M1 AT gun is an AT gun.
  
• The Stuart beats the Puma if it uses Shell Shock.
  
• The Sherman is a medium tank.
  
• The Jackson is one of the best tank destroyers in the game.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2018, 13:53 PMLago

USF struggles with many things, but AT is not one of them.

Pack Howitzer, Mortar, Ambulance, M8 Scott. These are the only four units in the USF nondoctrinal lineup that can't fill an AT role.

• Every USF infantry squad can be turned into an AT squad. REs are a very efficient option. If you use Riflemen you get an AT squad with snares.
  
• The .50 cal has Vet 0 AP ammo.
  
• The Utility Car drops teller mines and its crew has a bazooka.
  
• The AAHT's gun is armor-piercing and it beats 222s in a 1v1.
  
• The Captain can upgrade to a bazooka without the unlock.
  
• The M1 AT gun is an AT gun.
  
• The Stuart beats the Puma if it uses Shell Shock.
  
• The Sherman is a medium tank.
  
• The Jackson is one of the best tank destroyers in the game.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2018, 12:23 PMShadowLinkX37

MGs covering MGs are annoying. But imagine how many MGs you’ll get to play against if USF get free wep rax. Grens wouldn’t stand a chance.

Jump back to quoted post19 Aug 2018, 23:37 PMCODGUY

LOL if you think the AAHT is a good AT option and nothing you mentioned baseides the late game Jackson is really all that good at AT especially conpared to its Wehrmacht counterpart. You are really grasping at straws if you think the Stuart is any good vs a Puma or anything beyond a Luchs.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 07:41 AMLago

The Stuart beats the Puma outright if it uses Shell Shock.

The AAHT beats the 222 outright.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 09:10 AMEsxile

The Puma beat the Stuart if it stay at range, no need for abilities. Or we could also say vet0 unupgunned gren beat vet3 dual BAR riflemen with riflenade.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 05:29 AMLeOverlord

Definitely free weapons racks are not a good idea, and shoud NOT be taken into account. There has to be another solution for the weapon racks. Maybe they can change it in a way that you get a free BAR or a Bazooka (randomly) on your squads by the time the upgrade is complete and then you have to retreat your squads and get the other weapons manually. And that free weapon will only apply to existing Rifle squads. The other squads that come into play later, will have to purchase them the same way as now.

As for the MG spam, maybe they should give USF some more tools, i don't know what exactly. There has to be something

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 12:47 PMShadowLinkX37

Maybe if you’re rank 1k standing in yellow cover against grens. Otherwise maybe apply brain power and move. By this logic the Molotov is the best weapon in the game, because it does fantastic DoT and no one has ever considered moving out of the way

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 09:10 AMEsxile

The Puma beat the Stuart if it stay at range, no need for abilities. Or we could also say vet0 unupgunned gren beat vet3 dual BAR riflemen with riflenade.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 14:32 PMLago

If you're playing against someone who refuses to dodge grenades, sure.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 15:08 PMEsxile

Then keep your puma at range and use smoke when needed.

Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2018, 15:23 PMLago

If the enemy Stuart is zoning your Puma out of a 40m radius around it then it's doing its job.