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Rng is not unfair. The numbers are generated with the same distribution for all players. Sometimes you get a lucky roll, sometimes your opponent, but when there is thousands of rolls every game, it evens out almost every game.
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skill shall take the place of luck don't you think ?
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RNG shall be balanced not removed okay ? do you understand difference between them ??
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skill shall take the place of luck don't you think ?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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You mean like when Colombia headbutted an England player in the box and only a yellow card was awarded instead of a red? Or should I list a few more times England have been screwed by a refs decision or "rng" as you call it.
Regardless of Football, still doesn't change RNG in this game. The ref isn't rolling a dice to decide what his decision is.
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I'll do my best to explain this to you.
Every tank in CoH 2 has an armor value, and every gun has a penetration value.
When you hit a tank, the game divides the gun's penetration value by the tank's armor value. It then generates a random number between 0 and 1. If that number is lower than penetration/armor, the shot penetrates. If it's higher, it bounces off.
If you fire a gun with 250 penetration at a tank with 300 armor, it's got an 83.3% chance to penetrate. That means it has a 16.7% chance to bounce off.
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you got it yellow card instead of red card is just like RNG happened.
yeah referee doesn't roll a dice but a wrong decision is still a wrong decision whether its by dice or by weak referee's choice.
mistakes shall get to minimum
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Yeah...
Skill...
If you think its just luck that decides the games, then RNG is not the problem.
Its the very low skill of yours that is.
If it was all about luck, we wouldn't have so many balance patches and discussions.
Plus, this thread exists exclusively because ONE single instance that made you incredibly butthurt, its not something that happens consistently.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
You are low skill player, but in the past you've shown the willingness to learn.
Don't throw that away and become another hopeless ullumulu or incendiary, keep learning and improving your skill, because you're nowhere near the level where luck decides the game.
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Risk management is the ultimate skill of coh2. That is why RNG is what defines this game.
Also, there is no luck, there is only statistics. People seem to remember only when they were unlucky, but when they were lucky, they think it was their skill. And they usually can't even define what kind of skill that was.
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there is luck called RNG
there are 2 kinds of RNGs ; let me explain you by example
Example #1 : you are playing as Soviet and have 1 AT gun and then enemy brings his Panther
you manage to take out p4 with 10 shots how ? > 7 shots penetrated 3 shots de-penetrated.
Example #2 : you are playing as Soviet and have 1 AT gun again then enemy brings his Panther
you do 20 AT gun shots but Panther runs away . why ? because of ridiculous RNG 15 shots depenetrated.
well RNG in ex #1 is fine and acceptable but #2 ? no man that doesn't make any sense.
i want to say the difference between ex#1 and #2 shall not be that long. sometimes such things really happen and ruin the game.
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i hate injustice RNG you know that
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Hello everyone
as you already know Company of Heroes 2 is great RTS game specially now after some updates BUT
the main question is >>>> Why Relic didn't fix RNG ?!
well i should say Coh2 is really good game but there are still some small things that causing big problems :
first and most biggest problem is RNG
i recently had a 2vs2 match and was playing as allies , when it came to late game Wehrmacht brought brummbar , i managed to reduce its hp to 1 % then i targeted it with AT guns .
you think what the result was ?!
3 Direct hits and depenetration GG brummbar ran away and we lost that game .
btw this silly thing didn't happen for 1 time it happened for 3 times .
GG RELIC WP
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Why do you think the example #2 doesn't make any sense? It makes just as much sense as #1, it simply is much less common.
Btw. What you call "RNG" is not what that acronym means. You mean "random event" and you should use that term instead. Like I said, the only difference between the events in example are their probability. From gameplay perspective they make exactly as much sense.
Also, you talk a lot about the skill. Can you explain what you mean by that? I feel a formal definition of that term can save us another 30 posts of misunderstandings.
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Random numbers are random
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RNG in this game is in a perfect right now. The worst part of RNG were the things that could wipe squads in the early game. Granted, you can still lose squads early game but only if you're taking unnecessary risks like fighting with half-health squads near a mortar now. Gone are the days when a single mine could wipe out a full health squad. That was absolutely bonkers game design and has been gladly removed from the game.
If the RNG isn't something that one shots; then that means counterplay is possible and one player could've done better.
OP didn't lose to RNG. A brumbar that weak would've been killed by a 222 hitting its rear armor. You failed to have any mobile AT and lost. It's that simple. Don't blame RNG for your mistakes.
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i know but its all about the possibility and these possibilities are balanceable
think a bit before posting
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i know but its all about the possibility and these possibilities are balanceable
think a bit before posting
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i know but its all about the possibility and these possibilities are balanceable
think a bit before posting
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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