kholodney ferma (both), minsk pocket

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 17:46 PMLuciano

Is there any point of having 2 versions of the same map? The kholodney winter version is straight up a worse version of the summer one, why dont we just leave the summer one and we also get 1 map less to veto? Same with minsk pocket, in my opinion the map is too big for 1v1, it should be only in 2v2 where it fits well, it is one of the most vetoed maps anyway.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 19:46 PMferwiner

As for minsk, I played on it many times in 1v1 and a few in 2v2 as well, and I honestly believe it is much better 1v1 map than 2v2. There is simply not enough space for 2v2 there. In 1v1 you can use the corridors to flank, in 2v2 armies are so big that you either can't flank becouse everything is defended or your flanking force simply won't fit in the small narrowings. So really, it plays much, much better in 1v1 than 2v2.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 17:46 PMLuciano

Is there any point of having 2 versions of the same map?

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 19:49 PMLuciano

Yeah, that is why it is one of the most vetoed maps. Also, you dont even have ranks, why do you even bother lol

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 20:03 PMRosbone

I totally agree. COH2 in its infancy had to show off its new WINTER capabilites. COH2 is old now, we do not need fancy winter versions of each map. Pick which ever one plays best, remove the other.

It is especially irritating to map makers who could make a map in less than 16 hours. Why do we have crappy/duplicate maps when it is SO EASY TO MAKE NEW ONES.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 20:10 PMferwiner

I do play the game. Yes, maybe I don't have as much time for it as you do, but when I play it, I want to get the best possible experience, not play the same map every time becouse somebody decided to remove all of them. Or becouse some vocal person thought it will be a good idea to ask for removing maps he doesn't like becouse people dicuss maps a lot recently. Nothing personal, but you have no right to say that other players and active community members should not speak about changes in the map pool.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 20:38 PMLuciano

Then explain why is it one of the most vetoed maps in the 1v1 poll

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2018, 17:46 PMLuciano

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Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 19:46 PMferwiner

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Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 21:17 PMSturmpanther

About snow maps, some people like to play on winter maps too. And I will try to look that the winter Version looks and plays a little bit different.
There is no way to remove atm every double map from mappool, relic will not allow this
But I also agree about new maps. The problem with new maps is the big time to test new maps until they are ready for automatch.
3vs3 and 4vs4 players are waiting since years for new maps.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 20:44 PMferwiner

No problem, just let me direct you to a different thread:

https://www.coh2.org/topic/81112/map-veto-stats/post/687447

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 22:00 PMLuciano

Those arguments dont make sense when the map is vetoed by everyone

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2018, 22:24 PMferwiner

Lets start from the simple fact that you have no proof that the map is voted by everyone, while I have a mathematically valid proof it is not Read your statement again and you will know how.

Also, these arguments would make sense even if it was vetoed by vast majority of community. If you didn't understand something from the discussion in the other thread that was, I must admit, littered with specialist terms, feel free to ask.